How Would You Rate Mayweather, H2H, at Each Weight?

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  1. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    which is again why I said at the lowest weight I’d have it a 50/50 bout with Mayweather getting better the higher in weight it goes,
    If you look at the comparison you have if we’re being completely honestly if you look at the last 30years JLC is the best LW of a generation, objectively a very solid case can be made, and Maidana again outside of the Alexander fight dude has an argument for beating unbeaten coming in and a legit 2-weight Champ factor in Mayweather being past prime in the fight and also how the rematch went in both bouts to dismiss Floyd is a bit misguided.
    I mean you could easily point to say the Taylor fight that Chavez was losing easy til a last second last round ko, or the second Leonard fight for Duran.

    just my opinion though I definitely don’t think it’ll be easy but yeah 140 and below Floyd is a different animal
     
  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol I’ve seen Duran which is why I said at 135 it would be a grueling fight it seems that part slipped right past in your rush to respond.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    I think he’d have been in survival mode.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    H2H Castillo is nowhere near the best at 135.

    Heres a well kept secret. Jose Luis Castillo had a glass jaw.
     
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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    130. Nobody (Pac and Loma are his toughest tests)
    135 Duran, Armstrong, Pea
    140 Pryor, Pea (Arguello gives him a stern test)
    147 SRR, SRL, Hearns, Duran ( Pac is a 50/50)
    154 SRL, Tommy Hearns, Winky , Duran
     
  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well unfortunately we can only base it of what was done in the ring and a very solid argument can be made that Castillo is the best LW in 30 years just on the top level wins over Johnston, Casamayor, Paez, Corralas, Lazcano, arguably Mayweather as well... outside of Mayweather nobody goes unbeaten on the top level for a career but to say Castillo who actually trained under Chavez as a teen, but not even hyping Mayweather but Castillo is an extremely high quality fighter that gets disrespected to hate on Mayweather.
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Floyd was an animal alright A kitty Kat
     
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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Yeah thanks in the main part to the NSAC & Vegas boxing. I dont think he'd have ever beaten Duran in a month of Sundays. Plus I STILL believe a 100% Antonio Margarito kicks his ass. In a 100% Fair fight that is
     
  10. Drew101

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    130: Armstrong and JCC are about 50/50 based on style. Favor Mayweather over anyone else at the weight.

    135: I think he beats Carlos Ortiz, who is anywhere from 5-7 all time for me. JCC and Duran are at their best at this weight and get favored slightly based on style...But I wouldn't rule out Floyd's chances of springing the upset completely against either. He still beat every pressure fighter he faced, both officially and on my card. Most of those wins were pretty decisive. At the very least, Floyd takes at least one of three against anyone he faces at the weight.

    140: Could see Crawford giving Floyd some issues, and Pryor and pre-Taylor havez would be favored slightly due to style and workrate. Floyd probably defeats anyone else, though.

    147: He ain't beating Hearns, SRR, or SRL. Probably drops a close decision to Montreal Duran, too. Could see him slicing up Napoles, though. Floyd could be grimy when he wanted to be so even though Mantequilla has the style and skill to beat him, I don't see him getting out unscathed. Curry is probably the low man that I would favor over Floyd.

    154: Hearns and McCallum are both favored. Wright probably isn't a great match-up for Floyd, either. He definitely beats Duran at the weight, though.
     
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  11. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be great to see him in with those 50s WW/MW (since a same day weigh in 160 is easily a previous day weigh in 154) greats like SRR or Basilio.

    I could see it going either way, with 50s rules and equipment, 15 rounds, you have to favor those who set themselves up to succeed under that system.
     
  12. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    In your opinion a so called 100% Margarito beats everyone even Duran.
     
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  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beats Duran at 154? I recently watched Roberto take apart Davey Moore at 154 at it was devastating . Floyd never faced that kind of know how ,pressure or power.....one other note: you think Floyd would take 1 out of 3 against anyone at 135? I'd bet the house he'd never fight Chavez or Duran even twice.
     
  14. Drew101

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    Oh, you watched Duran beat up a defensively deficient and relatively inexperienced power-puncher in Bronx Davey Moore? Cool. That proves that Duran was capable of beating straight-forward sluggers. More mobile opponents at that weight? Different story.

    I watched Duran, at the same weight, get soundly outboxed by Wilfred Benitez and Kirkland Laing. If he fights Mayweather on the heels of those fights, he goes 0-3. Hell, if he beats Cuevas and Moore to get his confidence back after New Orleans, he still probably loses to Mayweather more often than not based on the fact that his attacks was increasinly blunted against movement as he went up in weight.

    And, at lower weights, yeah...I think Mayweather (who fought the best available guys at the weight class on the way up) would fight Duran or JCC. You're conflating PBF with Money as far as how he went about his business.
     
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  15. OvidsExile

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    130 He might beat Alexis Arguello, although frankly it's 50/50. He probably beats Flash Elorde and maybe Vasyl Lomachenko. He beats Kid Chocolate and Azumah Nelson. It's his best weight. I'm not picking anyone to beat him here.
    135 I think he beats Ike Williams and Carlos Ortiz but gets his **** pushed in by Duran, Leonard, Canzoneri. I can picture him beating Lew Tendler, Jack Berg, Joe Brown, and Packy McFarland but I'd need to see more footage of them to know for sure. Pernell Whitaker is a toss up.
    140 He probably beats Kostya Tzyu, Antonio Cervantes, Terence Crawford, and Nicolino Locche, but I see him being battered by Julio Cesar Chavez, Aaron Pryor, Barney Ross. Oscar De La Hoya and Wilfred Benitez are pick 'ems.
    147 I pick Mickey Walker, Thomas Hearns, Armstrong, Leonard, Robinson, Napoles to beat him handily. Pacquiao would beat him narrowly in their primes. I think the best guys he could beat are De La Hoya, Trinidad, Jack Britton, Ted Lewis. Maybe Jimmy McLarnin or Kid Gavilan. Carmen Basilio easy. Emile Griffith is a toss up.
    154 Tommy Hearns, obviously beats him. Nino Benvenuti I think beats him. Possibly, he could beat Terry Norris. He beat De La Hoya and Canelo in real life but not in their primes. In their primes it would be 50/50. I don't like his odds against Julian Jackson or Mike McCallum. Felix Trinidad was a sucker for good defense and tailor made for Floyd. I'd give him a 50 percent chance to beat Erislandy Lara.
     
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