How Would You Rate Mayweather, H2H, at Each Weight?

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You said he'd easily beat Margarito too but refuse to accept the fact Tony scared the **** out of him when he stood in front of him & his goons had wandered off. You cannot fake a video
     
  2. Drew101

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    Cotto was defeated by Trout after he was defeated by Mayweather, in a fight where he took a bit of lacing in the closing stages. Still managed to take about four rounds off a larger, tricky southpaw, though. Prior to that point, Cotto had actually looked resurgent and recovered from the Pac fight a couple of years earlier. The fact that he was fighting at a natural weight probably helped.
     
  3. Pimp C

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    He didn't scare him you dumb troll. An edited video by a PBF hater proves nothing. You're mentally ill because you think that means anything a desperate reach. PBF beat 3 guys that destroyed Margo easily yet he's scared??? Scared of a guy who he wouldn't lose a round to. LMFAO! Stop! BTW stop hijacking this thread talking about a bum we're talking about HOF and ATG level fighters here not cheating disgraced bums.
     
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  4. C.J.

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    Pimp's only response when his idols courage was found to be lacking is to try to attack Antonio Margarito. Ive seen four or five different videos of that encounter as well as the one featuring Bob Arum lol I'm sure you have too but refuse to accept the facts. No one ****s themselves when faced by a person they could easily beat lol
    As for cheating disgraced bums try Floyd Mayweather jr Remember IVgate Pimp you scenario you refuse to discuss ?? The fact the NSAC statement read "Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong" was laughable when they issued him a retroactive TUE ROFL Yet banned Pac's LEGAL Toradol on fight night because he didnt tick the right box. If you cannot see the corruption here then youre either thick as two short planks or blatantly lying
     
  5. Pimp C

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    You sound like a broken record. Every thread about PBF same **** over and over and over and over. You're obsessed by the man you need help real talk.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    Okay, assuming he's 1-1 in title fights, after beating Villaflor then moving up to and losing to Duran - I think he probably couldn't move back down, but if he could (or if he fought them before he moved up, anyway) I think he'd have given both Esclara and Shibata beatings. Maybe not like Arguello-Kobayashi style overpowerings, but he certainly counters the pair of them to oblivion. Anyway, I imagine he'd be want a rematch with Duran and he wouldn't be in position to just demand one. He'd have to stick around and beat some of the contenders. I have no doubt he'd beat any and all of the lightweights then outside of Duran.

    I think he likely loses a rematch to Duran in 76/77, but could perhaps beat a Duran who's struggling with weight. Maybe? I don't really see that happening at lightweight though because as far as I'm aware, Duran moved up as soon as he had issues with the weight. I wouldn't take Floyd over the DeJesus III verison.

    I'd say Floyd moves up to 140 after losing the rematch to Duran. He's hardly gonna settle for being second best in his weight. He'll be against Cervantes, or maybe a young Pryor - depends when he moves up. Or perhaps a fight between him and Arguello is talked about and he sticks around for that. I'd take any prime Mayweather over Arguello around that time. I think Floyd vs Cervantes is a great tactical matchup but I definitely pick Floyd. Mayweather was a better JWW than Benitez IMO and would do all the same things that El Radar did. He'd likely defend against Pryor some time later on, where I think he's got a very high chance of losing. Pryor's style looks handmade go beat Floyd, given he's basically what you'd get if you mixed Castillo and Maidana in a blender then served it cocaine. Floyd can win a close decision though, and as champ he's likely to get it. I think after beating fighters like Cervantes, Pryor, maybe Benitez, Mamby and Arguello. Floyd moves up again, and takes on some contenders at 147 - before taking on Leonard in say, 82. I have no doubt he'd have lost to Hearns and Leonard. I think it's possible he goes up to 154 like Benitez did, and I think he loses to Benitez at 154 (50/50 at WW, but I don't think the timelines line up for that here). The Duran trilogy fight would happen now, I imagine. This is where Mayweather avenges that loss. If Jr tested himself at middleweight vs Hagler (which I doubt he would've anyway, he just isn't a middleweight), he'd have been thrashed IMO.

    I really don't wanna go through the whole 22 years - but I imagine he wouldn't last that long as he'd be fighting more often and I don't think he's built the same as Duran.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    My cut off is 150, which is definitely doable for Canelo. For example, he'd have to surpass Joey Giardello to make the cut on my list. While I don't think it's unreasonable that he could, I don't think wins over Caleb Plant and Billy Joe Saunders are gonna do that.

    I don't think Estrada/Rungvisai/Ioka will make my top 150, though. Roman would've done if he got the decision though, and probably will anyway if he keeps fighting.
     
  8. George Crowcroft

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    It's been awhile since I watched it, but I don't remember Cotto taking a beating that would quicken his decline vs Mayweather. If be was prime for one, he should be rated prime for the other IMO.
     
  9. escudo

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    Prime Floyd was a surgeon who had **** to do.
     
  10. FastSmith7

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    Come on man... Loma didn't get embarassed by anyone, I understand that Floyd would beat Loma 8/10 times as Loma is just too small but you can't say Lopez embarassed Loma.
    Vasyl was fighting like the shell of himself in the first half, then when he felt the pressure and that his career is possibly on the line, he stepped up winning 5 out of last 6 rounds, why do you think Lopez doesn't want the rematch? It would be the best bet for him financially and would remove any questions marks from his name if he beats Loma again. Lopez knows he got his ass handed to him in the last 6 rounds while he landed **** all on Loma in the first 6. Also don't forget the fact that Loma had shoulder surgery days after the Lopez fight, for the 3rd time in his career which is a real bad sign
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    I respectfully disagree.
    He didn't look to engage posing and moving around the ring for the first half of the fight. It was surreal to see. He did better the second half of the fight but it was too late he gave up too many rounds. It was an embarrassing performance in a fight I and most people here thought he would school Lopez in. I would like to see the rematch but I don't blame Lopez because of the way he treated and dismissed Lopez before the fight and gave him no credit after. I also don't buy the hurt shoulder thing it's an excuse, if you're injured postpone the fight. With that said I'd like to see Loma move on from this because there's plenty of great fights for him to take at 130 or 135.
     
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  12. ElCyclon

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    In other words, you got nothing!:eaea:
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Who are the three guys who 'destroyed' Margarito? Because I count two, Mosley and Pacquiao.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    They all 3 beat margo going away.
     
  15. George Crowcroft

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    Who's the third?