Evander, Haye and Mercer are still food for a guy like Wlad. He'd have suffocated them into submission and if he wanted to he can finish any late as he had monstrous power. I know people here hate Wlad and worship Ali but this matchup obviously favours Wlad more with all of his traits. Also Wlad needn't be the same speed as Ali when he's a good bit taller, longer and stronger. People overrate Ali's era IMO, remember that half of the relevant boxing world weren't even in the pros back then and America hyped up all of their fighters for propaganda and obvious fiscal reasons.
The young Foreman's trainers had him lose weight for fights. He could have easily fought at a significantly higher weight. I believe Foreman had much more functional strength than Wlad and was arguably the strongest fighter of all time. Ali was very strong.
Foreman was not stronger physically than lewis, Bowen, vitali, wlad, fury and joshua. He was physically stronger than all guys in the 70 and 80 and the small heavys in the 90
Seriously, foreman was immensely strong for a boxer, here he is lifting a cow weighing around 1200 lbs https://images.app.goo.gl/A1WHML3Bg8pRqiMbA and this is him pulling a 2 tonne jeephttps://images.app.goo.gl/UBL77JxwQ6APcfVZ8 he was no joke strength wise.
I can see Wlad beating Ali with the same tactics he used vs Povetkin. Ali has no preparation for that. Ali wasn't a big hitter either. He's going to have a long hard night.
He was slow and maybe nothing special and still he had better skills than Wilder. Also he was large and durable. People usually evalue Valuev from his most slowest version when he was 37 y.o and very slow. This Valuev of course was too slow to properly hit boxer in normal shape. Not because he did not had skill, because he then was very slow. One from most slowest HW boxers was 37 y.o Valuev version.
Yes, you are correct and they will not admit this. I appreciate that you use critical thinking when discuss about boxers. Yeah, and heavily. For example Patterson was very great.......... for his size. approx 190 lbs. No doubts. Liston was 220 lbs vs 215 lbs prime Ali and he kept his hands too low when allowed Ali close distance vs him. A lot of modern boxers does use high guard or medium high guard. Even Patterson with his peek a bo might gave him more problems if he ...... was in Ali size. Tyson was larger than Patterson and had faster legs than Patterson. Foreman was 220 lbs and if he had bulked up larger in mass, he just had becomed slower. Prime Foreman was great boxer but he was slower than prime Vitaly, Wlad, Lewis or A.J or also Fury. If we bear in mind that very large size boxers like Vitaly, Wlad, Levis were not only very large but also impressively athletic, muscular guys not slow slobs. No one, nor Lewis, nor Vitaly nor Wlad were in their real prime when they were 37 and especially 38 and older. I think Lewis had retired because he get that he is over the hill when he was 38. Looks this is meaningful number for a lof of HW boxers: Pov showed starting decline since he turned 37. Wlad started to slow down when he was 37. Foreman appeared less prone to aging, I think exactly because he wasn't fast even in his prime. -------------
I dont know man... Foreman wasnt so damn slow in his prime like ppl think, they confuse him a little bit too much with Liston. Sonny was indeed slow, especially his footwork, but a slow fighter would never KO Frazier in 2 Rounds because Joe himself was not slow. Vitali, Wlad, Lewis, AJ and Fury are fast in relation to their body mass and size, but compared to all others like Patterson, Byrd or others they were not faster. Yes some times Big George was lazy and it looked like he had an off day, moving very slow like a contruction equipment. But when he reall was "on fire" he was by far not slower then Vitali or Wlad, who are imo slower then Lewis, AJ and Fury. AJs moving speed is very underrated. Look how fast he moves from A to B when he moves away, like he did against Parker when Joseph tried to catch him. He can move his feet faster as Vitali and Wlad when he wants to. And Fury is also not so damn fast as people think he is. Yes, in relatin to his size and frame he is DAMN fast, but not overall. He is able to avoid so many things because of his enormous frame, not just 6ft8 (203cm) tall, but also very long arms with 85inches (216cm) reach + very log legs to move away. Its this large frame what makes him so difficult to get, not that he moves so damn fast. For his frame yes, but not compared to all others.
Yeah, Frazier was fast fighter. Vs Foreman he had weight ( Frazier's median fight weight was approx 205 lbs ) and reach distadvantage. Appeared that Foreman was very smart, he knew positions and angles where Frazier is most dangerous and likes to use. Foreman had predicted where Frazier will move and by using his reach advantage he managed to prevent this and start to batter Frazier who was small if compare with Foreman. V.s Ali he didn't had such weight and reach advantage and this was different fight. While Ali didn't managed to prevent Frazier to get comfortable for him distance and angles and therefore for him fights vs Frazier turned into hell. Frazier by taking comfortable for him positions had landed on Ali damn a lot despite he was smaller than Foreman. Foreman of course was not very slow and definitely was athletic, low fat % and really muscular boxer. I had watched Foreman vs Frazier and Ali, also Liston vs Ali and other stuff too. Not much but still.
As others are telling you, Foreman was not so slow at all. Ali tormented him as the "Mummy", but was surprised at how fast he was & how he cut ioff the ring effectively. Realizing her would tire (especially with that soft small ring) by running & pot-shotting, he by necessity turned to the rope a dope strategy. Foreman was ~ 220 in part because Saddler had him foolishly dehydrated. You can see him, still lean looking & less body fat than many modern day HWs, in the 230's in his first career.
Wlad is the fastest super heavy if all time. Wlads footwork is plain and simple great and his handspeed for his size till hew was 36 was incredible. When he was in his physical prime in the 20es look at his hand speed, its sick
It is funny that he didn't gave Foreman rematch. maybe don didn't wished this. If compare Frazier fights he had vs Ali 3 fights : 1st he had won via UD 15 rd fight, 2nd he had lost on cards, UD 12 rd and 3 rd he had lost 14 th rd cos looks ref first turned to lurk his corner and both of them had been beated up seriously. Frazier vs Foreman had lost via 2 nd rd TKO and next fight via 5 th round TKO. Foreman appears had been very smart, predict fight and to deal with Frazier relatively easily.
