Contemporary views on the Louis that faced Marciano

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  1. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wasnt Joe the betting favourite going into the fight? Was this the general consensus and if so, why did they have him favourite? In my (terrible) experiences gambling, i find the bookies rarely get it wrong.
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I think the odds were something like 6to 5 favorite for Louis going in. But at the looks of it, the general consensus was Rocky was going to win.
     
  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It sounds like you’ve actually watched the fight JT?

    You’re automatically disqualified from this thread for bringing honesty and insight rather than hyperbole based agendas.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    You got that right on all counts. Repeat something enough times........

    Thank god Candyman doesn't reside around here!
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Louis was at his best against Marciano because he was the most modern version of himself.
     
  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I'm stealing this argument.
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Look, there is little real rational arguing with these facts .. Louis was faded , likely a mid top ten guy in a pretty weak era and he got beat up .. anyone that builds Marciano on this has always been reaching to me ..
     
  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    It was rather impressive truth be told.
     
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  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Interestingly, after's Louis's last fight before Marciano (against Bivins), he actually stated he thought he'd come in too light.
     
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  10. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can see the openings in Rocky's defence and stance that Joe in his prime would have exploited but his reflexes, accuracy and speed had declined too much to take advantage.
     
  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely, as Emanuel Steward said of Rocky ,he was clumsy ,awkward and easy to hit. I don't think Rocky makes it 8 rounds against a prime Joe Louis .Looking at that fight again Louis looked older than 37, he reminded me of a fighter in his forties.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sure the stress of being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt contributed to it. Not to mention the drugs.
     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    And all of this was common knowledge at the time. I've skimmed through some articles, and the commentators are all so matter-of-fact about how much Louis had faded and the dismal state of the heavyweight division at the time.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he was 37 1/2, which is not "almost 40". Was he a shell of his 24 yr old self? We all are!

    The boxing reporters all loved Joe and disparaged Marciano. Of course they would downplay his abilities at the expense of Marciano. It happens now as well.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Louis was the 6.5/5 betting favorite, so somebody must have thought that he was a significant test for Marciano.
     
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