Lewis and Marciano hypocrisy

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    lol
     
  2. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    You completely missed the point.

    You claimed they never would have weighed what they did in the 70's.

    If they did the same old school training without lifting weights or taking PEDs then yes, obviously they would weigh the same.

    DURRDURR. :lol:
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    I didn't say he'd be finished as a fighter if he were 20 lbs heavier.

    I said whether he bulked up via weight lifting or simply ate more, he would not have the same stamina as his 185 pound self. The more you weigh, the worse your stamina is. This is common sense.

    He'd be a completely different fighter.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    A semi-pro team, and didn’t they cut him because he was too slow?

    What sources have you seen listing his weight at 210-220 at the time?
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes but if he only had to fight for twelve rounds, you would have a bit of road to run on that.
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In one of his biographies and speaking to family members.
     
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  7. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rocky was well over 200 pounds between fights. Whether or not he would have, or could have, fought effectively at that weight, for the right opponent, is something we will never know for sure. He did fight in the 190's a few times, and seemed okay doing that.
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Which biography?
     
  9. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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  10. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The last one I read was 'The Rock Of His Times' by Russell Sullivan. Nowhere is it mentioned that Rocky weighed well over 200 pounds.
     
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  11. Boxing GOAT

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    Lewis is 6'5", no reason to believe he wouldn't be entering the ring at 240. Carnera certainly did, but he didn't possess Lewis' skillset. Foreman was 6'3" and 225, and Frazier was 5'11" 225 when he fought George. I'm not saying there aren't fighters who could exploit his weaknesses and use their speed as an advantage. But there are also fighters who were nearly as big who could have cracked his chin just like Rahman and McCall.

    If Rocky were fighting today he'd be a Cruiserweight. Maybe not even the best CW. He would really need to drain down to 175 and fight at LHW, blow up on fight night to really make a name for himself in 2021.
     
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  12. janitor

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    There is because he was lifting weights to get up to 240.

    No trainer in the 1950s would have prescribed a training plan like that.
     
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  13. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why do you think that's so crazy? Steroids have probably affected the division quite a bit.
     
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This more or less my take too. It could be a co-incedence that HWs started to get progressively bigger about a decade after steroids were introduced in American sports (1960's Olympics), but I don't think it is.
     
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