Time for some facts about klitschko

Ali might have been boring inside the ring but at least he had a personality outside the ring. Waldo is nothing but a robot to the US public. A robot who is even less interesting once he's fighting.

And Ali wasn't a hugger in his prime. Not like this gigantic octopus. And at least Ali was grappling with men his own size. Waldo looks like an adult trying to molest children in that ring with his opponents. Again, it's disturbing AND ILLEGAL.

 

96 clinches in the Sam Peter fight. Probably would have been the same in the Lamon Brewster fight had Robert Byrd let Waldo molest Brewster.

That is a mere 20 or so off of the John Ruiz average. So please, don't pretend like he's just dabbling in the practice. He is basically the assistant peformer. At least Hatton does it while working inside.

 

LOL, you can't be serious................wobbled? Hahahahahahaha. :rofl :roll: :nut :yep

Good one.

 

Ali was far worse, he used to reach out & grab & then he would hold & hit which is illegal X2.

 

Speak for yourself.

 

Yea, unlike Waldo who reaches out to hold and then leans on smaller men trying to buckle their knees.

 

So what, Ali used to hold them behind the head until their necks were hurting.

Klitschko keeps winning. Complaining about his holding really doesn't make sense.

He was warned in round 2 or 3, go watch the tape. After the warning he stopped a lot of the clinching.

 

:rofl

It doesn't make sense if you are one of his apologists. Nope. He could rip off his opponents trousers **** him and you'd think it was all part of a winning strategy. They don't make glasses with enough tint for you guys.

Me, I'm an impartial guy. When I see two guys trying to win a fight and one guy is bending or even breaking the rules to win I'm going to call him on it. And I'll always be that way. I did it to Lewis, did it to Ruiz, and I'll do it to Klitschko as well. No different.

 

Lewis did that too, do you have a problem with Lennox?

 

Lewis was one of the most overrated heavyweights of the modern era.

Is that good enough for you?

 

Apologist? Welcome to boxing. It is a rough sport and people hold. He isn't the first and won't be the last. If you can find someone to get in there and beat Klitschko, fine, I won't complain. I make no quarrels about his obvious lack of proper defense.

 

The more you post the dumber you look. :hi:

 

Holyfield held Tyson an average of 14 times a round (=168 times over 12 rounds, if it went that far), Ali held behind the neck all the time, as others mentioned.

Like it or not, clinching is a part of boxing. Holyfield was headbutt crazy, Lewis held and hit, Ali held behind the neck, Frazier gave you a hip massage, Foreman punched low and on the breaks, Tyson did just about everything, Marciano used low blows and elbows, etc etc. And no, i'm not comparing Wlad to those fighters, i'm just saying that every fighter has his own way of bending the rules.

 

There is a pretty big difference between the Holyfield-Tyson fights and for example the Sam Peter-W.Klitschko fight.

For starters both Holyfield and Tyson were moving forward. It was inevitable that both guys would end up in a clinch. Waldo was moving backwards constantly only to reach out to tie up Sam whenever Sam got inside his punching range. Most of the time they weren't even close enough to merit it.

The other thing is that Tyson and Holyfield are of a compareable size and strength. Holyfield grappling with Tyson inside is not as devastating to Tyson as Waldo grabbing and leaning on Sam over 12 rounds. And this was one of the problems with Lewis as well. For a man that big and that strong it seemed idiotic for them to hold on prior to every little exchange. Well, to get away with it that is.

 

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Fouls. All fouls recognized by boxing authorities shall be penalized by warnings from the referee and point deduction(s), at the discretion of the referee, after two warnings. A list of common fouls is as follows:

1. Hitting below the belt (being a line encircling the body at the level of the navel)
2. Use of elbows, shoulders or forearms
3. Butting with the head
4. Hitting in the back of the head (rabbit punch)
5. Striking the kidneys or back
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10. Hitting the opponent when part of his body is out of the ropes
11. Hitting an opponent when he is down or getting up from the canvas
12. Leaving the neutral corner and striking the opponent before the referee´s instructions
13. Holding the opponent or maintaining a clinch
14. Striking after the referee&#180;s order to <<break>> or <<stop>>
15. Stepping on the opponent
16. Holding the opponent&#180;s head or body with one hand, while hitting with the other
17. Using the open hand to fix the face or rub the glove on the opponent&#180;s face
18. Thumbing the opponent&#180;s eyes
19. Striking after the bell
20. Crouching the body below the opponent&#180;s belt defensively or to strike
21. Biting or spitting on the opponent
22. Using abusive or profane language
23. Failing to obey the referee&#180;s command
24. Giving the back and walking, or running, away from the other boxer
25. Spitting the mouthpiece.
26. Cutting or mutilate the gloves (seconds)
25. Any rough tactics other than clean punches.



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