Margaritos wraps

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Never see what? I would say the same thing about you, that you don't want to see it. You refuse to even look at the evidence against Margarito and their own testimony which confirms that they violated the rules and deserved to be punished.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    its like dealing with a child, who is not aware there is any reasoning beyond the level of a child.
    nobody yet has said he didnt violate the rules, the fact that you would bring it up now pretending thats what its all been about, is downright insulting. as if youre gonna trip me up or something and you think im just dumb enough to go along with it.
    the guy had a used pad that had sweat, naturally, and possibly blood, which would also make sense, as any friction against the knuckle will cause abrasions. now if you want to now pretend that all youve been trying to say is that margo is guilty of using a used pad, and therefore guilty of breaking a rule, then ill pretend thats what youve been doing all along and we can quit this clown show.
     
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  3. shadow111

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    Precisely and Margarito's own statements about how he told inspectors in the dressing room that there was nothing in the wrap which were revealed in the court documents that Finkel posted completely contradict the entire arguement that he made at the hearing that he had no idea what was in the wrap, that he just put his hands out there and Capetillo did what he did and Margarito was just an innocent bystander in all of this. From those court documents, Margarito clearly did know what was in the wrap to begin with since he pleaded with the inspectors to feel the wrap while claiming that he knew that there was nothing inside it. This tells us that Margarito was no dummy, that he was wise to what was inside of the wrap on his hands. And frankly it was always hard to believe that a fighter wouldn't be able to feel how hard the pad was that was connected to his knuckles felt like. Margarito must have been sweating bullets in there knowing that he was about to be caught and was trying to desperately to play innocent like "here . . . feel the outside of the wrap, but please just don't unwrap it because I'm telling you there's nothing inside"

    He knew what was inside those wraps. Knowledge + Deception ≠ Oblivion.
     
  4. shadow111

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    I'm not trying to trip you up, I'm trying to get to the bottom of what happened so we can put this to bed once and for all. You calling me a child suggests that you are invested in defending Margarito or his team to some extent, otherwise why would you be so threatened by my comments? So we can agree that he DID violate the rules and deserved to be punished? Good, that's a start.

    Now, as to whether there was plaster on his hand wraps, from the court documents that Finkel posted, we have the testimony from Che Guevara :

    In addition, we have the photo of the pad at 6x magnification confirming the plaster like substance. We have the lab confirming that the ingredients to plaster of paris were also apparent in the gauze. Thus far, you have refused to address the testimony of the inspectors seeing the plaster OR the photograph showing the plaster. Why?
    I'm not pretending anything my man. I'm going with what the evidence reveals. At a minimum we can all agree that he certainly put used pads in there with some dried sweat and blood and/or red dye stains on it. As to whether there was plaster in the pad inserts, we have plenty of reason to believe that there was. First, the testimony of all the inspectors who noted a white plaster-like substance on the gauze, then we have Mosley's lawyer and doctor scratching the gauze and flakes of plaster of paris coming off it, yes the pad was also described as being wet, but flakes of plaster can still come off from a damp/wet piece of gauze when scratched. The pad doesn't have to be bone dry for the substance to flake off when scratched. Then we have the 6x photo of the pad revealing a thick white-like substance between the interlacing threads of gauze. How can you ignore all this evidence and testimony regarding the plaster-like substance on the wrap? Or is this post too long for you to read, so you can continue to ignore the evidence and testimony? I can't make the post any shorter man, there is so much overwhelming evidence that listing it all takes a paragraph or two.
     
  5. bandeedo

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    you have absolutely no self awareness....and minimal situational awareness.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are ignoring the evidence and testimony which I have so eloquently laid out for you. I don't know if you're a Margarito fan or what your reasons are for not wanting to believe what happened happened, but whatever your reasons, your head remains in the sand on this one. The evidence and testimony is overwhelming and leaves no doubt as to what happened.
     
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  7. C.J.

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    What about the CSAC reps that watched the wrapping , passed then & signed off on them as 100% OK? Where are their excuses? Were they ever interviewed.. Like we all decided over the weekend. The evil deed was done & no one involved wants to know about it. An innocent man's career & good name were tarnished & the perpetrators havent the balls to come out & admit We Were Wrong & apologize.
    Now let it rest
     
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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Go watch something else you obviously DKSAB or know when enough is enough. Now back on ignore you go Byeeeeeeeee
     
  9. 22JM

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    You still haven't answered my question why did Margarito NEVER beat someone after getting caught??? He couldn't even stop bum Garcia ??
     
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  10. C.J.

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    Just put the troll on ignore my friend He obviously doesnt know when its time to STFU its great not seeing him
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ask Manny Pacquaio about Tony's punching power. He said he'd never been hit so hard > Were Tony;'s gloves loaded then TROLL???/
     
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    Wheres tony and his teams comments? Wheres the proof you suposedly reached out to them? More lies fraud.
     
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  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Loopy Lou & Shadow111 what a pair ROFLMAO
     
  14. dangerousity

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    You didn’t answer the question.

    There are only 2 scenarios that could have occurred:
    1) There are no illegal hand wraps and so therefore, the coach and Margo would just reply with “show me the illegal handwraps otherwise fk off”. He certainly wouldn’t distance himself from the act and the coach wouldn’t have to take the fall for anything because there is no fall to take.

    2) There are illegal handwraps, in which case Margo claims ignorance over how his hands were being wrapped to absolve himself from the responsibility. The coach meanwhile takes the “fall” for it.

    The key thing here is the “fall”, either there is one to take or there isn’t.

    To put it into another scenario, you find PEDs in my system. I will do one of the following things:

    1) Deny those are PED substance in my system and ask for a re-test. There is nothing to admit to.

    2) Feign ignorance and say “I didn’t know those were PEDs or perhaps they came from good beef or my nutritionist gave me x and I didn’t know”.

    which option did Margo take?

    feigning ignorance, letting the coach/nutritionist take the fall? Haven't we seen this 100 times before?
     
  15. The Akbar One

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    Fact is that Margarito got the **** beat out of him after he had to properly wrap his hands.
     
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