Better Wins: Vitali or Primo?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Apr 10, 2021.



Who had the better wins?

  1. Carnera

    41.2%
  2. Vitali

    58.8%
  1. 70sFan865

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    No, he absolutely didn't look good against Kownacki...
     
  2. NoNeck

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    Arreola was at peak performance at 240+. Godfrey wasn’t, although he may have been in peak hugging form at that size. He was the size of a small heavyweight today.
     
  3. 70sFan865

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    I literally showed you numbers, you came back with nothing... The difference between their average prime weights is less than 9 lbs, but sure - one is agressive giant and the other one is "small heavyweight"... Without even accounting for how they actually look - Godfrey looked solid at 250 lbs, Arreola looks fat at 250 lbs.

    If 6'3 240 lbs fighter is small, then maybe we're talking about different sports.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    Peak performances and physical peak (27 or 28 y/o)—1925. He was in the 220s.

    He also looked more like a mini Dominic Breazeale on film than Chris Arreola.
     
  5. 70sFan865

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    The only strong win from 1925 was his performance against past prime Fulton and he weighed 227 lbs in that fight.

    Some of his best wins:

    1926 vs Gains - 223 lbs
    1927 vs Maloney - 233 lbs
    1928 vs Uzcudun - 236.5 lbs
    1928 vs Gorman - 240 lbs
    1930 vs Gross - 250 lbs
     
  6. NoNeck

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    He got more opportunities as he got older and fatter. It still doesn't make his style anything like Arreola's.
     
  7. Man_Machine

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    I don't particularly rate Arreola. However, he had shown some promise on his way up, prior to running into Vitali.

    From what I can recall, he always came to fight, even if he didn't really carry with him that X-Factor.
     
  8. janitor

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    Did Chris Areola ever beat a legitimately world class opponent?

    I think that you could make a strong argument that he did not.
     
  9. Kamikaze

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    You could also make the argument Godfreys entire resume would not be world class today as would be the case with Godfrey himself!
     
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  10. reznick

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    Look man, if you want to take the Modern Margret angle on this sub-argument, totally fair. But for the love of god, do not use the signature Janitor exclamation point! That’s a technical foul.
     
  11. Kamikaze

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    "They will take everything even your tears"-GF
    Just following the big guys wisdom.
     
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  12. janitor

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    You could, but that argument would be based upon a missive and specific assumption, which would lie squarely upon the shoulders of the person making the assertion.

    The evidence that you would be able to produce, would be very weak, and very hypothetical.
     
  13. Kamikaze

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    Hypothetical yes, What is true is they are all relatively speaking in this context no hopers.
     
  14. janitor

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    How can you be sure?
     
  15. NoNeck

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    World class today= the best boxers from around the world.

    "World" class in 1930=the best boxers from the US and Europe, selected from a population that was 1/3rd of what it was today and under crippled economic conditions that limited ability to be a professional sportsman.
     
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