Daniel Dubois Returns June 5th facing Bogdan Dinu

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  1. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You don’t really understand boxing because Dubois was in trouble from the beginning as Joyce was putting him gradually and steadily into deep waters draining his soul.
     
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  2. velagod

    velagod Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not bad opponent for a rebuild fight. Probably would be Daniels best win so far well him or Gorman.


    But it’s absolutely criminal that dinu is ranked 2nd in the world by the wba.
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Dubois was hesitant in closing the gap, But the fight was not onesided bonehead. Watch the entire the and in spots when Dubois goes on the attack Joyce gets on his toes or clinches and Dubois has success with his agression. He's just extremely inexperienced. Joyce jabs away when Dubois is at mid-long range and grinds him down but Dubois wasn't applying any significant pressure and he had almost zero head movement. Even Joshua would probably be able to evade a lot of Joyces jabs. If dubois marched forward, blocked some jabs, and got agressive a lot more he'd do a hell of a lot better against Joyce.

    Dubois also needs to work the body more than he did because Joyce's chin is solid. He can do all of this stuff he's just inexperienced. Byrant Jennings did better against Joyce than Dubois did but Dubois really had the power and the agression to give Joyce serious issues.
     
  4. znalniaskas

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    Pretty much also my opinion, not a bad fight to bounce back, but his ranking is a joke.
     
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  5. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    There was a reason why Dubois could not be aggressive mainly the consistent of Joyce’s heavy jab, it’s accuracy and the pace Joyce set. What do you mean even Joshua? Joshua was an elite amateur,Olympics Gold medalist and World Championship Silver medalist and is a 2 time unified heavyweight champion of the world so you better believe he had good fundamentals. Dubois should never have been allowed near Joyce and kept developing. Those in the trade knew it was a mistake but his management got greedy. The truth is nothing in his experience had him ready for Joyce. In the fight it was like he got hit properly for the first time against a live opponent. By the way I like Dubois and think he has some good attributes but my fear is that they have ruined him. I really hope not because it was so unnecessary. I am actually annoyed by it.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Dubois had success with his agression. He shouldn't go in there guns blazing but he appled pressure and put the work on Joyce in spots despite Joyce's jab. Dubois stayed at range too much in the early rounds and joyce was able to pick him off which further slowed Dubois down and made him even more hesitant to engage. He didn't march forward all day and eat jabs he stayed at range and ate jabs even in the early rounds. He stayed on the outside way too much and it benifited than taller man with the better jab. It was when Dubois let his hands go and moved forward aggressively that he landed a his most meaningful shots and forced Joyce to back up or cover up or clinch, it was when Dubois was on the outside that he got his face jabbed off. And i mentioned Joshua because his head movement is not the best. Mediocre even

    And i agree, this was too early for Dubois. He should have fought Artur Szpilka then moved up to David Price then to Carlos Takam before fighting Joyce
     
  7. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good opponent for his comeback but if nothing else has changed behind the scenes then he’ll never be the top class fighter he once promised to be. I said before and after the Joyce fight that he was totally unprepared for that level. He’d been fed walkovers right up to the Joyce fight where as after Gorman he should have had a real step up in quality opponents fight on fight. It’s typical Frank Warren guff, he did exactly the same to Anthony Yarde.

    IMO Dubois needs to sever ties with Warren and maybe look at his coaching team!
    He’s still very very young and in time can build on his current experience but he needs better matchmaking and maybe better coaching.
     
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    He is about a year in to a 5 year deal with Warren

    I think he'd get lost in the shuffle at match room right now

    A year or 18 months time might be better
     
  9. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You don’t seem to understand is that he had difficulty because of what Joyce was doing to him. He thought he would go in there and blast Joyce out like he did others previously not realising Joyce was a better boxer than him and physically stronger. On the inside the clinching by Joyce was done on purpose to basic rag doll Dubois lean on him with Joyce’s physical strength to contribute to wearing him down. Joyce and AJ at least have head movement it’s a concept alien to Dubois.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joyce never really leaned on him or at least he didnt do it that much. Joyce either moved away, covered up, or clinched to stop the agression which is pretty much what most fighters do to nullify another fighters offense. But even then Dubois was landing a lot of shots the times he got agressive and let his hands go, 1 example would be the end of round 5. Dubois does need to work on his head movement. Mostly the reason he got his face jabbed off was because he mostly stayed at range against the bigger opponent and he had almost no head movement.

    If Dubois was more agressive he definitely could have taken more rounds and wouldn't have gotten his eye jabbed in as bad.
     
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  11. Penne Pollo

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    Joyce is old. In five years Dubois probably would win.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He couldn`t get past the jab.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he got past the jab multiple times just like he did at the end of round 5 but he has zero head movementso when he stayed at range looking for a power punch he kept getting his face jabbed in

    Dubois was looking to slug it out with Joyce at mid because thats his style but Joyce comfortably outjabbed him and Dubois was hesitant to just attack him because of the jab. The early rounds definitely show this. Almost every single time he aggressively fought Joyce he had success. He wasn't gunshy but he wasn't very active.
     
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  14. seansanashee

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    That's a bit of a stretch to say "ever", Dubois is still learning and Joyce will begin to decline at some stage.
     
  15. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    In 5 years Joyce would be retired most probably he has Dubois number that’s for sure.
     
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