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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Apr 17, 2021.


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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I wonder more why Hulkquez couldn't put a dent on Pac in three fights but all of a sudden has the power to KO him in the fourth. Gamma radiation is a hell of drug.
     
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  2. Serge

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    Manny's fighting opponents who have 10-15lbs on him a lot of the time up at 147. He's the antithesis of these weight bullies who are rehydrating a lot of weight in every division they campaign in as they ascend through the divisions like Crawford and Clenelo who often still have significant weight advantages over their opponents in their second, third and third divisions even when facing career fighters in those divisions or at worst weigh roughly the same as them even in their third or fourth. Manny is only rehydrating 2-4lbs at 147 just like Loma is at 135, both of whom are routinely giving away a lot of weight and reach whereas Crawford has never been at a reach disadvantage in any of his world title fights regardless if they were at 135, 140 or 147.

    And Clenelo was only giving away like 2.5'' in reach against Kovalev and a couple of pounds in weight up at 175 yet people acted like it was some David vs Goliath scenario lol. These dopes still can't get their heads around the fact that Clenelo is a freaking tank and is very thick-set and powerful, even more so after jacking himself with all those PEDs, and is a good sized 'natural' 168 pounder now at worst. Hell, he was a natural 160 when he was cowering in the coop from GGG down at 154 and Clenelo weight and even weighed more than GGG's average fight night weight, which has been a very consistent weight for GGG throughout his entire career, 7-8 year ago. Serge kids you not.


    And Manny has been fighting very tough durable opposition and fighters who haven't been or who very rarely got stopped

    Never stopped

    JMM
    Bradley
    Thurman
    Broner
    Floyd
    Vargas

    Never stopped in their prime or known for being incredibly durable

    Marg - stopped twice in 49 fights, once on an eye injury, the other against a juiced to high heaven Mosley who cracked him with about 100, 000 flush roid bombs from hell before his titanium chin inevitably cracked. Don't forget that a clean Mosley nearly sparked Floyd out with two non-roid bomb right hands and Floyd had a very stout beard himself

    Mosley - stopped once in 60 fights when ancient and shot to bits

    Rios - stopped twice in 41 fights both times of which when well past his prime

    Algieri has only been stopped once and he had a bum knee for that fight and he's a very honest type of guy so I don't doubt he's telling the truth

    Horn - the less said about that fight the better. The ref allowed Horn to go full Dre in that one and the judges went full Dre and Clenelo's judges too

    Again, he's giving up a lot of weight/reach or both to a lot of these guys at 147 and unlike Clen he's never failed a PED test in his life even though he's undergone both VADA and USADA numerous times. In fact, when he fought Floyd he called Floyd's bluff and said that they should do both but Floyd declined and I think I'm right in saying Floyd has never done VADA.
     
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  3. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    PEDs and secret scorecards have done wonders for Canelo :wanker

    Funny how invested you are in Manny being a PED cheat (off nothing but an agenda), but quickly discredit
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  4. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    Ah yes, Brandon Rios, a man well-known for his china-chin.
     
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  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes, I wonder why a flyweight couldn’t stop guys at WW with iron chins, fighting at elite level and for the most part played it safe with him because unlike the first 10 years, they stopped underestimating him.

    The strategy used to be “he can’t handle pressure”, so guys like Cotto and Hatton bought into that and paid for it.

    Clottey played his safest fight ever, Margo played his safest fight ever and actually used a jab and a high guard and still nearly got stopped, Rios played a safe fight, broner played a safe fight, Floyd ran etc.

    The only only ones to come at him are Jeff Horn who played it safe his own way via headbutts and clinches, and JMM, that was a double edge sword as he nearly got fked before he ko’d Pac.

    Moreover, your logic makes 0 sense. If you’re alluding to him lacking power since he got off the “drugs” then why was he still knocking every opponent down? A former flyweight knocking down iron Chins WW, what do you expect he was suppose to do at FlyW to JWW?

    Finally you dodged the above. You implied that he was only able to achieve what’s outlined in this thread (champ at 20, 30, 40) because he was on drugs, whilst at the same time implying he’s not on drugs anymore since the KOs stopped, yet he just became champ at 40 when.

    That contradicts your entire implication since he literally just achieved what you’re saying can only be achieved on peds, whilst simultaneously claiming he’s not on PEDs anymore.

    like I said, logic, not even once.
     
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  6. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Facts Pacquiao was a ped secret shakes abuser who drained opponents and got them in the right time FACTS
     
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  7. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Thats a great description of Canelo. You really are a Canelo fanatic . @shadow111 this dude is coming to take your throne.
     
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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Sorry my friend I disagree Mayweather:pipiPacquaio
     
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  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Greatest of his era.
     
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  10. Southers

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    I quoted what he said in the other Pac thread an they was the words he used.

    I don’t really no what it means myself. I think it means he has no reason to be biased either way.

    That’s what I took it has so that’s why I said what I did seems like he was trying real hard to discredit Pac. For someone who claimed not to be biased. Anyway we all have are opinions. So it’s all good.
     
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  11. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You just can't accept the facts.
     
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  12. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    What are you talking about ive accepted that Canelo is a cheating scumbag a long time ago:sisi1
     
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  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    There's room for a king and a queen
     
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  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Facts yet they were secrets?

    Makes sense
     
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  15. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    In the words of Keith Thurman - "Don't dthuck me son"
     
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