Why are Canelo's failed drug tests always swept under the rug?

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  1. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Yes, yes it does. You keep banging on about how the failed tests are consistent with meat contamination, but it is not.
    As someone that has worked with steroids and cycle timing, this is completely false and I want you to provide factual evidence as to how you can conclude it's consistent with contaminated beef.

    It is nothing more than a cover story to distract the casuals, like yourself from the truth, and I can prove that.

    So, have at it. Show us the factual information that you are basing your 'consistent with meat contamination' theory on.

    I'll start you off, here's a quote directly from Eichner who completed the tests:

    "We initiated the test to be as comprehensive as possible but knowing it's very difficult, according to the experts," Bennett said. "It's a difficult process to be able to confirm whether there is clenbuterol in the hair follicles, but I talked to (SMRTL president and laboratory director) Dr. (Michael) Eichner and he said they'd run the test even though it is even more difficult to run on light-colored hair. But we sent them the samples and the tests came back negative."

    That should be enough to get the ball rolling.
     
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  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    That quote directly from Eichner seems to be a quote directly from Bennett that mentions talking to Eichner.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You think that's getting the ball rolling to prove it wasn't meat contamination? Don't be silly. You're referring to the hair follicle test, which had nothing to do with the actual test that produced the positive result with had trace amounts which were consistent with meat contamination.

    You want to get the ball rolling - I'll help you with that. Here's a picture of Canelo in the restaurant with Bill Clinton where he ordered the steak.

    https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/bn/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Canelo-Alvarez-and-Bill-Clinton.jpg
     
  4. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    You're not wrong Boxed Ears ;) This was to help shadow more than anything... seeing as he wants to speak 'truth'.
     
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  5. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Stop deflecting, the dinner has nothing to do with the tests. For all we know, that steak was clean.
    Well done, you have a picture of Canelo with Clinton... that doesn't prove a thing.

    Like I said, get the facts out to support your theory.

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    Wait. So now the tests that somehow deemed Canelo clean, now have nothing to do with the failed tests?
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He knows what evil lurks inside the hearts of all men...because he is that evil. That is what I believe.
     
  7. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    All good this way son:borra2:

    Its almost as bad as saying the earth is flat homie. I’m okay knowing they most likely Google szhit but have no real life experiences.
     
  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Maybe he did with pac because he is an atg but G hof at best
     
  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    If you think that then I can’t help you.
    I admire what Canelo has accomplished so you can suck a big D if you don’t realize I give the Big Red credit.
    He went H2H with GGG for the toughest 24 rounds of his career then went to LHW and smashed a damaged Krusher. A damaged Krusher who was still dangerous at that bro.

    If you don’t think Big Red was on the lighting just by his appearance then you should pull over and allow Ray Charles to drive you to and from school.:risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The hair follicle test is used to show long term drug use. After a drug is out of your system, it could still be found in the hair follicle. If Canelo had been using clenbuterol regularly over a long period of time or any banned substance regularly for that matter, it could be found in the hair follicle. "But he had light hair." I know, I know, it's supposedly harder to test for drugs in a light hair follicle. There's no need to go down that road, because since it was clean, you're just going to argue that the hair follicle test means nothing since he had light hair.

    What was consistent with meat contaminaton was the trace amounts of the original tests, not the hair follicle test. Also the investigation into his wearabouts the week of the test. Confirming that he dined at restaurants in Guadalajara. The picture is powerful because before I shared that picture, people were accusing me of being gullible believing the story that he dined at a restaurant with Bill Clitnon and ordered a steak. They said his team would never have allowed him to go out to a restaurant, since all his meals were prepared, since his trainers were "butchers" etc. The photo destroys that entire narrative which was used extensively prior to sharing the photo. The photo forces you to change your story to something different since what had been argued before then can't credible be argued any more.

    "For all we know, the steak was clean."

    Chances are, it wasn't, since there is a well known meat contamination problem in Mexico. The dinner had everything to do with the test since it occurred right before he was tested, which is consistent with meat contamination.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can believe whatever you want, but I have no reason to accuse a fighter of being on drugs when there's no reason to. You wanna talk about appearances. Canelo has never been as shredded as Pacquiao was between 2008-2012. Canelo's physique has not changed. He doesn't have a ripped 6-pack or anything that would indicate PED use. The guy had so-called stamina problems for years, gassing in the middle rounds. But to some at that time he was on PEDs that helped with stamina. It makes no sense. If he was on something to help with Stamina, then why did he still have so-called stamina problems?

    The size of Mayweather's head became much bigger towards the end of his career. Canelo's head has not gotten bigger like Mayweather's did. Canelo has never had a ripped 6-pack like Mayweather did in 2013 when he fought him. Mayweather looked like he was on something when he fought Canelo. There's much more reasons to believe that Pac or Mayweather was on something due to their physique and performance changes than Canelo ever has.
     
  12. anthoto1

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    How brain dead should one be to believe the meat contamination version ? :lol:

    It has been a poor excuse for years for Clen users (see Alberto Contador).
     
  13. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "These kinds of topics are boring and repetitive."
    My God, the irony, much like all your long boring canelo replies, mention Canelo & without fail he awakes from his slumber, foaming at the mouth ....
     
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  14. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo did look rediculiously muscular and lean when he fought at 164 lbs for first time vs Chavez jr, then looked even more so in GGG fight #1. So it was kind of suspicious before he got busted. The thing is, isnt Clenbuteral used to cover up other steroid use evidence?
     
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  15. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep.
     
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