My take on Joseph Parker

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  1. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    Doesn't like to get hit with too many punches. He checks out in certain rounds, hoping he's just done enough. When he goes on the attack he's very good. But just can't set the intensity for long periods. I don't think he's quite as durable as once thought. But most tough heavyweights are probably one punch away from being dropped cold when you got 220 plus behemoths throwing. Look at Ruiz last night too.
     
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  2. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk had no problems vs Chisora... where is this narrative coming from? Usyk smartly played it safe the first 3 rounds and then put on a clinic on Delboy, he was not in trouble even for a second.
     
  3. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Take aways from the fight, he was comfortable after an initial onslaught. He has a great engine, good shot selection BUT something about him is lacking regarding killer instinct. A couple of times he seemed reluctant to go for the kill when Chisora was badly hurt, maybe he wanted the rounds?
     
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  4. Unforgiven

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    You had him losing ??
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    He just has a bad habit of admiring his own work.
     
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  6. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Yes I did but worse is his attitude. With his skill sets he should not be having close fights with Chisora and Dillian Whyte. He is infinitely more gifted but he cons himself out of fights. Worse more because he is blessed with a great chin.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    I didn't catch last night but I have heard plenty about it. What type of fight am I in for? A good scrap? A boring hugfest? Poor from one? Poor from both? Great performance from both?

    Without having seen last night's fight, my thoughts on Parker are pretty similar to your own. He's been well schooled and had his fundamentals ironed out, but it seems like the trainers he grew up with never went too far past the basics. I've met amateurs who don't even come to three in regional tourneys who have more advanced skillsets than Parker. I agree about the idea of him being very coordinated, bit not particularly intelligent (boxing wise, not in general life like Whyte or Chisora). He's also very tough and pretty quick. I think the two back-to-back losses effected his psyche in a way that he hasn't recovered in a fight I've seen yet. He's lost any form of killer instinct, and he was always quite a nice fighter anyway.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    It was a decent heavyweight fight.
    Parker was knocked down in the 1st round, though not badly hurt, and he struggled to adjust for a few rounds, Chisora fought intensely early on.
    I thought Parker won by a point of two.
    He didn't looks great but his stamina was impressive, and he looked better than he did against Fa.
    He might improve in the next outing if he stays with Andy Lee as his trainer.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, fair enough.
    But then again, Fury struggled with Wallin, and Joshua lost to Ruiz, so even the best tend to underperorm sometimes. Parker has potential to do better, and maybe underperforms too much, but I think this was an improvement on the Fa outing so I can't really say it was an 'underperformance'. He might actually be moving upwards, who knows.
    He's a decent solid contender in the current division, I reckon. I had him winning by a point or two. I thought he deserved a draw with Whyte. He's no world beater, he's solid enough though.

    His worst performance was perhaps against Joshua, all things considered, wrong strategy completely, and even there I think he won 4 rounds or so. He's not mug, he knows how to box a bit.
     
  10. MorvidusStyle

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    ''Strong Polynesian legs''. That's pretty funny. I notice everything physically good about these mixed fighters is always supposed to come from the non-Euro side. I guarantee you Parker got his current stature and leg length (main component in mass) from his Euro genes. Polynesians are short, short limbed and rarely get above six foot. If he was fully Polynesian, he'd have even shorter reach and height and more easily beaten by SHWs.

    The problem with Parker, Ruiz, Whyte is that they've been over hyped in the past by their promoters and then fans despite not doing a great deal. That's why Chisora has weirdly become a way of exposing this hype. For years Chisora was considered nothing much because Fury beat him and people didn't like Fury. Now it turns out prime Chisora was probably a little better than Parker, Whyte, Ruiz actually. This is bad news for fans of AJ, so it's not popular. It seems a prime Arreola would have a good chance of beating Ruiz too, which shouldn't be a surprise. Arreola was a good-not-great fighter and Ruiz is probably around the same level. Both experienced game blobs who've fought since childhood, but not good enough to be dominant at HW.

    Parker was exposed as a safety fighter in the AJ fight. His ambition was obvious by the terrible fights he's been seeking and even going after Chisora when he should be chasing the very top fighters given he was supposed to be a world champion!
     
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  11. The Townsend

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    How did you have the fight George?

    Nevermind, just seen you haven't watched It yet
     
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  12. Olu G. Rotimi

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    He is not a mug that is exactly my point but he should be beating the living daylights out of Fa, Chisora and Whyte.
     
  13. Safin

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    What planet are you on, mate? Prime Chisora better than Whyte, Parker and Ruiz?

    Chisora's best wins in his entire career are Euro level Takam, domestic level Price and the ghost of Kevin Johnson. He has lost 11 (!) times. That is an awful balance to weigh up.

    Whyte beat the best and most motivated version of Chisora twice. Parker has beaten a version of Chisora that is almost as good as has ever been (useless) and has other better wins. Ruiz similarly.

    Whyte, in particular, has beaten Chisora x2, Povetkin, Helenius, Rivas, Parker, Wach and Browne.
     
  14. The Townsend

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    He hasnt been with Andy Lee for long. It could take 1-2 years for him to fully adjust and use a new style.

    He most likely was out his comfort zone while using the new style and so dropped back to what he feels comfortable with which is his old style. As frustrating as that Is.
     
  15. guncho

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    Yes i agree but after those 3 rounds Usyk was all red and looked to me that was close to gas and I was not sure he would be able to keep it up for 12 rounds. Middle rounds usyk almoust stopped chisora,7th round i believe, and after that chisora came back in later rounds and usyk let him because he himself spent lot of energy trying to stop chisora and thought chisora was done.

    Usyk clearly won chisora fight had it 116-112. But he looked very unconfortable and to me it seemed he put in 110 procent to win.

    Parker on otherhand looked to Cruise and did not put as much effort as usyk did and almoust lost, imo if Parker went at it 100 procent he would stop chisora in Middle rounds.

    To me it was apparent that Joe was able to push back chisora and Hurt him when he landed, also he did trow some hard body punches to Chisora and after them Chisora was blowing hard. Problem was that Parker would stop and not put pressure and let Chisora of hook.

    Usyk was not able to push back chisora as he is not as phisically strong as Parker.

    Any way Usyk would school Parker i believe it would be something like 10-2 in rounds.