Jack Dempsey would beat Joe Louis, via Ko

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  1. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Active Member Full Member

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    I favour Joe Louis, but a big puncher like Jack Dempsey has his chances.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I find it highly unlikely, Dempsey's defense isn't good enough to stay away from Louis.
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Running into Joe Louis is a bad idea. A right hand on the way in puts Toledo Jack to sleep
     
  4. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Jack Sharkey?? Is that you?
     
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  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Slow starter? Louis has multiple brutal early round knockouts over ranked skilled fighters such as Max Scmeling and Buddy Baer.
     
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  6. Glass City Cobra

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    It isn't unreasonable when you consider the fat sloppy Tony Galento managed to drop him early and stagger him early.

    ABC logic isn't always applicable in boxing, but in this case it is something to consider. Dempsey's hook probably wasn't as heavy as Galento's who was north of 220+, but it was much faster and sharper and he could follow up and pressure more than the slower less skilled Galento.
     
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  7. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have to give Dempsey a chance. Absolutely.
    He was a confident, aggressive, two-handed puncher with a mean streak and pretty decent skills.
     
  8. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    I’ve always said, if the fight gets past 6 Louis runs away with it, but Dempsey is a very dangerous challenge for Louis early, Louis was sort of a slow starter, let his hands drop and float a bit, it’s not crazy to think that Uber aggressive Dempsey could get him out of there early
     
  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I pick Dempsey with no real degree of certainty
     
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  10. choklab

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    Max Schmeling knocked out a prime Louis so why not Dempsey?

    Even if Dempsey had Knocked out Joe, it wouldn’t raise him above Joe Louis in the top ten ATG lists anymore than it did Max Schmeling.

    Louis was the better champion. I think Louis would win the rematch anyway.
     
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  11. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Schmeling was nothing alike Dempsey. Schmeling outboxed Louis, used fantastic timing to counter Joe and upper body movement to smother Louis work. Schmeling didn't run straight at Louis, he picked him apart patiently.

    Dempsey would never use similar strategy, he always went for knockout. He was much more agressive, but also less refined fighter than Max.
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

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    Using schmeling to make a case for dempsey is extremely flawed. Totally different fighters with completely different styles and tools at their disposal.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he wouldn't.
     
  14. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Sure it is possible, & you can cherry-pick examples to support a case.
    But what about looking at all Dempsey's losses? And there are much worse fighters than Louis that if he won he did not overwhelm.

    Anyway the bias is as usual obvious when the weight of Conn is listed lower than any ever presented for him in the Louis fight. This is a dead giveaway that someone is not objective.
    It is the same thing if someone took the same percentage off of Dempsey's prime weight, & described him as 175-180 lbs.
    It would rarely be an error, since his size is well known.

    It would betray an agenda, & how wishful thinking & psychological identification drives a conclusion, not trying to weigh all facts objectively.

    Louis was much more successful that Dempsey & fought so many more challengers despite missing years serving in WW2.
    He was knocked out only once before his last fight with Marciano-& that was when he was much older than when Dempsey retired.
    Louis was a better boxer & beat all types over many years.
     
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Nope. Dempsey's reckless early attack would find him on the canvas.
     
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