Wladimir Klitschko is now the greatest heavyweight who ever lived, according to Boxrec.

Fury's the greatest ever

 

This is common argument " bad era".
While a lot of modern boxers had fough vs boxers who had lost fights vs Vitali, Wlad or even vs Povetkin.
Ofc now is better era.

One from Klit era cotenders was then 33 y.o then undefeated Pulev. Bad era.
Last A.J opponent was exactly the same Pulev, just now 39 y.o and not undefeated. Appeared that he is mandatory for A.J ordered by IBF.
Good era?

Then next example: the same Povetkin had stopped Takam, later vs Takam had fought A.J and did the same as Povekin: had stopped Takam like Povetkin had did the same.

The thing that a lot highly ranked boxers fought vs boxers already defeated by Vitali, Wlad or Povetkin.

There are not only Pulev or Takam, even the same Povetkin had fought vs Wlad, later vs A.J and then vs Hunter, later vs Whyte.
Besides these mentioned there are also other guys who had fought in their era and continue to fight today.
Chisora had fought vs Vitali, his last fight was vs Parker, before Parker vs Usyk and he also had fought vs Whyte and Fury, Haye.

 

You must be a troll. I wanted Haye to win at the time, but he spent half the fight trying to hug Wlad's toes

 

When you get to the top ten I don't really believe in definitive ratings for anyone. It all comes down to what you like and how you perceive different eras.

Wlad's definitely top ten for me. His dominance and longevity alone see to that. Ugly at times, extremely dirty in at least one fight, but then the same can be said for a lot of champions. Foreman constantly wrestled and pushed opponents, Ali clinched, Holyfield headbutted, Lewis hit and held. Joe Louis was about the only really clean champion I can think of.

 

Boxrec gets a lot wrong but based on his resume they're not wrong here. Wlad put together by far the longest genuine heavyweight streak of all time against the tallest, heaviest opponents, beat every contender thrown at him (KO'ing 16/21 of them: possibly the hardest puncher of all time) and dominated for 11 years straight until he was 39. In heavyweight history only Fury is more talented.

 

I don't particularly like Wlad, but I have to agree.

In terms of head to head competition, he had the strategy and discipline down.

In terms of resume, he reigned for 10 years undefeated, rarely losing more than a round.

Best resume and I genuinely think he would beat everyone.

 

AJ's win over old Pulev was less decisive than Wlad's win over a prime undefeated Pulev and AJ's win over old Takam (dodgy stoppage) was less decisive than Povetkin's win over a prime Takam. But in my view, AJ is overrated and these relics from the Klitschko era are over-ranked based on past accomplishments. Ortiz and Povetkin for God sake are still "top 10" but are they really? Any top 30 fighter would be favoured to beat Povetkin now. Hunter (who has just ducked genuine top 5 Hrgovic) has only two wins over 3rd tier heavyweights to his name, drew with badly faded 40 year old Povetkin and got battered by Usyk at cruiser. Whyte is on the same level as a prime Chisora overall but is far less durable.

The top 6 (which is all I'm fairly sure about) is as follows: Fury, AJ, Usyk, Joyce, Hrgovic, Yoka. Average height 6'6, average weight 250 lbs. The likes of Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Hunter, Povetkin's ghost, pensioner Ortiz and mentally-broken Wilder can't beat the real top 6, so the division looks less impressive than it really is at the top. AJ also may be one brutal loss away from joining Wilder in the mentally-broken category and I only have him above the Olympians because he has got a few wins against old men and second raters.

 

Or you just naive and idolise boxers based on a highly manufactured career..

 

Well, Klits era most likely had been not mentioned so often if not exactly this thing: a lot from this era boxers who had fought vs them had been or even still today are highly ranked and fought vs modern era top boxers while ofc in modern era they are older.
More than just this: some from them had fought vs modern era boxers for belts.
Last example is the same Pulev : he was challenger vs 38 y.o Wlad when he was 33 y.o. and udefeated. he was also last challenger for A.J and again for belt while being now 39 y.o.
Chisora too is good example: 2012? he fought vs 40 y.o Vitali and had fought vs Haye.
Later: vs Fury, White. Still fights with top ranked boxers like Usyk and Parker.
Wach was not smaller than Wlad and then was undefeated with 27-0-0 pro record and younger than Wlad.
After fight vs Wlad he fought vs Povetkin and I will lurk who he had fought with after fight vs Povetkin.

 

Not in my top 10 .....

 

now thats some D grade trolling right there.

 

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hes possibly the best of the late noughties and until 2015. but that doesnt make him top 10.

louis
lewis
vitali
tyson
foreman
holyfield
holmes
marciano
liston
norton
dempsey
fury (beat klit)
joshua (beat klit)
johnson


all those guys arguably would be ahead of him.