How would Prime Ali's championship opponents fare against Tyson's? Matchups Sonny Liston vs 'James' Bonecrusher' Smith Floyd Patterson vs Pinklon Thomas George Chuvalo vs Tony Tucker Henry Cooper vs Tyrell Biggs Brian London vs Larry Holmes Karl Mildenberger vs Tony Tubbs Cleveland Williams vs Michael Spinks Ernie Terrell vs Frank Bruno Zora Folley vs Carl 'Truth' Williams
Liston beats Smith. Patterson beats Thomas Tucker beats Chuvalo Cooper beats Biggs Holmes beats London Tubbs beats Mildenberger Terrell beats Bruno Carl Williams beats Folley "Big Cat" Williams v. Michael Spinks, I don't know ..... Williams was a shot fighter, literally, but still had power .... and Spinks was on his way out, with chronic bad knees ..... so could go either way.
Liston by Late KO or UD. Patterson by UD or Late TKO. Tony Tucker by UD. Probably Biggs by UD. Larry Holmes, prime or unprime by Spinks by Late TKO or UD. Tubbs by UD. Terrel by UD,but i can imagine a Bruno win by early KO. Folley by UD. Under the same situations? Well, its still the same but if you put in The 1964 Sonny Liston, now that would be questionable....
1. Sonny Liston stops James Bonecrusher Smith, TKO 9 2. Floyd Patterson beats Pinklon Thomas, controversial 12 round decision. 3. Tony TNT Tucker jabs and moves, beating a tough George Chuvalo on points. 4. Henry Cooper bloodied, catches Tyrell Biggs in round 6 with a big left hook for a TKO 6. 5. Larry Holmes batters Brian London for a KO 2, too strong. 6. Tony Tubbs boxes and lands multiple power punches in decking and out boxing Karl Mildenberger, unanimous 12 round decision for Tony, the German southpaw is outgunned.7. Michael Spinks lands the Spinks Jinx on a shell of Cleveland Big Cat Williams stopping the former top contender in round 4. 8. Ernie Terrell jabs, clutches and grabs Frank Bruno for a unanimous 12 round win. 9. Carl The Truth Williams defeats Zora Folley in a split 12 round victory in a real barn burner. There you have it my fellow posters.
Cooper v Biggs might be a bloodbath. Both were heavy bleeders. I suspect Cooper would rally to a stoppage win though, with a vicious attack of hooks.
If we are talking prime vs prime I'll go with Liston ud or late stoppage over Smith Thomas to stop Patterson in 8 Tucker ud Chuvalo Biggs to tko Cooper mid rounds Holmes tko 3 London Tubbs ud Mildenberger Bruno KO Terrell Williams to stop Folley around 7th
Sonny Liston vs 'James' Bonecrusher' Smith: Liston late rounds TKO Floyd Patterson vs Pinklon Thomas: Thomas UD George Chuvalo vs Tony Tucker: Tucker UD Henry Cooper vs Tyrell Biggs: Going with Cooper to edge out Biggs Brian London vs Larry Holmes: Holmes TKO Karl Mildenberger vs Tony Tubbs: Tubbs UD Cleveland Williams vs Michael Spinks: Williams KO Ernie Terrell vs Frank Bruno: Terrell UD Zora Folley vs Carl 'Truth' Williams: Folley edges out Williams.
Matchups Sonny Liston vs 'James' Bonecrusher' Smith Liston TKO round 9-11 Floyd Patterson vs Pinklon Thomas Patterson close decision, might need to get off the floor to win. George Chuvalo vs Tony Tucker Tucker UD Henry Cooper vs Tyrell Biggs Cooper could potentially win this if he avoids getting cut, close fight. Brian London vs Larry Holmes Seriously? Horrible matchup, any version of Holmes wins this easily. Karl Mildenberger vs Tony Tubbs Tubbs by split decision. Cleveland Williams vs Michael Spinks Prime Williams might actually win, but the version Ali fought would get destroyed within 9 rounds or less. Ernie Terrell vs Frank Bruno Bruno in a very ugly fight that the fans end up booing. Too much clinching and rough housing, not enough actual boxing. Zora Folley vs Carl 'Truth' Williams Williams by decision or late round stoppage.
Matchups Sonny Liston vs 'James' Bonecrusher' Smith - Old azz Liston loses to the Smith that Tyson faced. Reverse for prime Liston. Floyd Patterson vs Pinklon Thomas - Pinky wins. George Chuvalo vs Tony Tucker - Tucker by a country mile. Henry Cooper vs Tyrell Biggs - Biggs by stoppage. Brian London vs Larry Holmes - Holmes by stoppage Karl Mildenberger vs Tony Tubbs - Tubbs by wide, wide Dec. Cleveland Williams vs Michael Spinks - Spinks by KO. Ernie Terrell vs Frank Bruno - Bruno by wide Dec over late stage Terrell Zora Folley vs Carl 'Truth' Williams - Williams by stoppage
Ha Ha, Lol my friend, that horse has been beaten to death a million times. It is like religion and politics, no one ever wins.
I pretty well go with the consensus on these. How about Tyson's title opponents against Ali's ones of his second reign ? Foreman v Berbick Wepner v Smith Lyle v Thomas Bugner v Tucker Frazier v Biggs Coopman v Holmes Young v Tubbs Dunn v Spinks Norton v Bruno Evangelista v Williams Shavers v Douglas To accomodate Muhammad's fights defence against Leon Spinks - put him in anywhere you like.
