Foreman vs. Briggs: What is your Scorecard?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Entaowed, May 12, 2021.


Who won Foreman vs. Briggs & by how much?

  1. Briggs by at least 3 points.

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  2. Briggs by 1 or 2 points.

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  3. Draw.

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  4. Foreman by 3 or more points.

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  5. Foreman by 1 or 2 points.

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  6. Briggs by 4 points.

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  7. Foreman by 4 points.

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  8. Briggs by 5 or more points.

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  9. Foreman by 5 or more points.

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  10. Briggs by 6 or more points.

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  1. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I saw this on HBO about a 1/3 century ago.
    What struck me is that while the more popular charismatic fighter tends to be favored in general & in decisions, it seemed like essentially the fix was in...To get the beloved Foreman retired!

    The special before the bout talked about the danger of Foreman fighting so old, how his wife who he ha promised to stop boxing before wanted him to quit, etc.
    Although Foreman appeared to have an anvil chin in his comeback, he was by then-approaching 49-very slow afoot & absorbed many punches.

    When the decision was announced & Foreman had lost, one judge rule it a draw, the other 2 clearly had Briggs ahead, 116-112, & 117-113.

    I do not consider myself a very efficient scorer, but very few people agreed with the decision either.
    a 4 point gap in *favor* of Briggs seems to be like they were watching a different fight, or possibly corrupt in an interesting & unusual way...Out of a sense of misguided compassion for Foreman.

    To play Devil's Advocate with myself...Is it possibly most everyone had such affectionate favoritism towars the Old Man that there sincere feeling of a highway robbery was due to bias?
    On that side I have heard it said Briggs seemed more effected than he was due to asthmatic wheezing, Foreman did not really land more shots, overall & power.

    But it seemed to me that he did. And was the more aggressive fighter & the better ring general.
    After the fight Foreman was not bothered, gracious & modest. Saying if he knew how it was being scored, he would have thrown more punches.

    Feel free to disagree if you feel the conventional opinions are incorrect.
    The articles below claim that Briggs himself was surprised by the decision.
    What do you think?


    In the 2 links below, the first are colorful fight descriptions by 3 writers.
    Lastly, "eye on the ring" has George easily winning, & especially the later rounds.
    It seems to me the cord wisdom of this website overwhelmingly tends to be accurate.
    The "controversy rating" there is a massive 86%, much larger than say Ali-Norton 3 at 50%.

    Please read through all the choices before voting. Then explain in the comment section why you ruled one way or the other. Consider ring generalship, punches landed & by type, how clean, effectiveness, & rounds won.

    Let's be respectful, only be salty if another man is your friend & you are taking the **** out of him, such as I recently told my Brother in Law "You should be committed to an insane asylum" (for not thinking The White Album & Sgt. Pepper qualified as great albums).
    No cruelty of "sit your ass down" anonymous keyboard warrior bravado.

    [url]http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/formbrig.htm[/url]
    [url]https://eyeonthering.com/boxing/george-foreman-vs-shannon-briggs[/url]
     
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  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman 116-112. That decision was a total joke imo, Foreman jabbed that fool silly.

    I imagine George retired feeling like a winner, because I don't know anybody who gave it to Briggs except for the dingbat judges.
     
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  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This was recently done by the poster no neck I believe. But with no poll. I have to give him some credit I was compelled to rewatch the fight and I scored it 7-5 Foreman which was much closer than I remembered although I couldn’t give Briggs another round to make it a draw. So I chose Foreman by 1-2 points.
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    One of the judges was probably that idiot @NoNeck
     
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  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Alright be nice Swag.
    And please give me your scorecard & some analyses of the fight, OK?
     
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  6. MR_TUT

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    The old man put on a clinic on that C-Level bum
     
  7. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I thought Foreman clearly won, but my post asked for your scorecard & an analyses of the fight.
    You spar with many top pros? Can you give is some details about why & how you thhought Foreman won/

    Briggs was not an ATG, but he was not a "C-Level Bum".
    At 60-6-1, he would have to be about the most protected pro fighter in history to be that bad.
    Almost *all* HWs are accused of fighting "winos from the alley"-& ALL fight some at best mediocre boxers, but Briggs did not fight only bums.

    But despite your bias or exaggeration, you could be right with your assessment.
    So please actually *give it to us*.

    Details, what Foreman did better & why, + your actual scorecard Tut!
    This should be easy given your experience, right?
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yeah my apologies. Let me see if I can find my scorecard. If not, I'll rewatch the fight.
     
  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have a point, my friend. Shannon was definitely a legitimate contender, not a bum.

    And he did get schooled. Unfortunately, I can't imagine he learned anything, because he was gifted the fight.

    The fight itself was by far the most masterful display of jabbing from Foreman in his entire career. It wasn't particularly fast, but it did seem to have the same heft it always did...but more accurate and controlling than it had been since his youth.
     
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  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always find that fight a joy to watch, LOVE Foreman's poise. He could be so calm in the ring.
     
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  11. MR_TUT

    MR_TUT Member banned Full Member

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    No card- sorry man but yeah I just don't think much of Briggs at all. Briggs was quite protected early on but he def came out of his shell and was constantly trying to mix it up with the best the guys after just did not have the skills to pay the bills

    Well- now I just remember how little energy Briggs had in that fight he lacked urgency and paid for it Foreman picked apart how lazy he could be on the second beat of a punch on the pull back he kept resetting a lot too now I have not seen this fight in years I am a lil punchy so forgive me if it is not how it is to you
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/foreman-briggs-the-robbery-that-wasnt.663374/[/url]

    7-5 Briggs
     
  14. rinsj

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    Keep dreaming