The Ward / Golovkin fight could have been made if there was more money. I doubt either was scared of the other. Problem is Ward is as boring AF and brings little viewership. That's the reason, fundamentally, it wasn't made, in my opinion. Pal you are about as big a canelo fan as Pimple is a fan of Floyd. I'm not surprised you don't see the favourable scores Canelo gets. Your Canelo nutriding is legendary and don't think I don't see you on other sites too. The 114-114 score was bogus bullsheeeeeeet. But if it makes you feel better I agree Floyd drained Canelo into uselessness. Canelo at 154 probably beats Floyd and at 160 beats Floyd like a bongo drum and sends him back home to wipe his tears up with his $100 bills.
Yeah I don't think there was any real buzz about it, I know it was talked about but a lot of people didn't think GGG belonged above Middleweight, many people wanted to see GGG continue his title defenses at Middleweight and Ward wasn't gonna come down to 160. Though I think it would have been a hell of a fight if GGG dared to be great but he didn't really fancy moving up and fighting Ward I don't think. I think this also was a case where neither guy really wanted to risk losing their 0. Ward had to be a little worried about how big of a puncher he is and Ward was pretty risk-adverse. I also don't recall there being any real talk about Floyd fighting GGG in 2015. If I recall, it wasn't till after Floyd retired in 2015 that Floyd was asked about fighting GGG. At that point he wasn't coming back for anyone. Nah, not even close. I don't exaggerate Canelo's performances to make him look better like Pimp does Floyd. That said, Pimp is spot on when it comes to the GGG overhyped train that you're a part of. So if I'm honest, both you and Pimp got idol worship issues. Me, I just call it straight down the middle, giving everybody they due. At least Pimp recognizes how special Canelo is NOW even if he doesn't rate his performance against Floyd. That's understandable. You on the other hand don't even rate Canelo's performance in GGG 1. At least Pimp sees that was a legit draw. You think it was some kind of robbery. So Pimp's got you in many areas but I think Pimp might worship Floyd even more than you worship GGG. Me, I don't got to do that. Canelo #1 P4P. I had him P4P for years long before everyone else saw it, obviously I know what the hell I talking about, can't say the same for ya'll but I don't got to compensate for anything, cry about judges or boost my fighter up to be better than he is. But ya'll gotta do that I guess since ya'll looking up at the P4P King who at the top of the sport. And it didn't come easy for Canelo to get here. He had to come up the hard way, from the mean streets of Guadalajara. OK so we agree on some stuff. That's OK, nobody gonna agree on everything. Right or wrong, CJ Ross didn't deserve to be exiled from the sport for it. She scored what she saw for better or worse. People still can't stop crying about that. People who say Floyd shut Canelo out are no better than CJ Ross.
You don't engage in idol worship yet you have written a 1000000 page manifesto as to how PBF didn't school Canelo including ridiculous things about feints, posting pics of canelo landing punches and talking about 15 punch combos that canelo landed and trying to justify the ridiculous draw score card. Are you high??? The nerve of you to talk about idol worship when you've sucked Canelo dry making a case for him in a fight his own mother thought he lost wide. I mean you can't make this stuff up. To be honest I think you're bitter that PBF schooled Canelo and will forever hold that over his and your head. Lets see if Canelo at 36 fights a young undefeated top 10 P4P ranked lion who's bigger than him and see how he fares. If he puts on a clinic like PBF did to Canelo then we can talk. I'm not a Canelo hater infact I've been a fan and have had him ranked P4P #1 for years I picked him to beat GGG in their first fight because I felt GGG had never fought anyone and was basic. So I have no idea why you think I don't like Canelo I have defended him countless times from haters who refuse to give him credit to the whole thing about the failed drug test with the Mexican meat, he's one of my favorite current boxers. Just because I think PBF is better and he PROVED it in the ring doesn't mean I don't like or rate him.
I know you're not a Canelo hater. You got BCS8 mostly. Not bitter, I give Floyd his props just don't respect when people trash Canelo and exaggerating all that Floyd did. Floyd ain't all that, he aight, but you act like he better than he is. You act like he unbeatable lol. Nobody unbeatable. You say he would have no problem moving up to 160 to fight GGG, and would school him. Please, GGG is tough as nails and would give Floyd a beating. Maybe Floyd could win a decision but it would be a 50/50 kind of fight. Floyd never felt that kind of power before. In truth, we agree on most. But I don't agree that it was a clinic what Floyd done. He got the W but lets not get crazy. But you do you, just calling it how I See it.
He didn't need to fight GGG he was fighting at 147 and a proven ATG who was the best of the era. Why didn't GGG fight Ward? or why didn't he fight Kovalev? After all his legacy sure needed it. PBF didn't need GGG, GGG needed PBF. PBF had already dared to be great. GGG was a nobody HBO was going into overdrive for a guy who's best win was Martin Murray. PBF was right to say something about it. I mean who hypes up a guy who KOs and fights C level guys? If it was PBF who had GGG's resume and GGG had PBF's you'd call PBF a bum and a hype job. But since you'd let GGG nut in your wife's mouth you say anything to protect his overrated ass. The Ward-GGG fight would have been a career high payday at that time for GGG those are facts. GGG had nothing lined up that would have paid him more than that fight. He didn't want the fight because he wanted a bum in JCC Jr and a retired Froch. When Ward wanted the fight he ducked asked for a catch weight and priced himself out. Meanwhile Ward moves up dares to be great and takes on a literal killer in Kovalev, who you said would beat him I may add, and takes his soul 2x. Showing you what a true great fighter does. Not take step aside money not fight blown up 147 pounders not wait around like a ***** begging for a Canelo payday only to lose and draw to him. Ward took action and is an ATG and GGG isn't. GGG-Canelo 1 was a very close fight. The fight could have gone either way but a draw which I agree with the call. While PBF-Canelo wasn't a close fight it was one-sided a judge scoring that fight a draw should have been banned from the sport because that card was a joke. At the very least they should have been forced to come in to the commission and explain their card maybe they could have brought @shadow111 in as a expert witness so he could further explain by posting pics of Canelo landing punches on PBF and help the judge argue their case before the commission.
How on earth can people be talking about Canelo at this stage of his career being better than Pac or Floyd? That is some extreme nut hugging indeed
I never said PBF was unbeatable. I do think certain fighters he matches up well with though and he's a great H2H boxer. A guy like Hearns at 147 for example would own him. We just disagree about the PBF-Canelo fight and that's fine. That's your boy and you ride and die for him cool. Like I have always said Canelo will have a long reign I don't see anyone 175 and down beating him for a long time because he's hard to outbox and you're not knocking him out either. He's a good all the way around with only a few weaknesses that today's fighters at those weights can't exploit. So the haters need to sit back and enjoy this ride he will all take us all on.
Wow, years later and you guys still engage with this loonie trying to justify the Floyd-Canelo 114-114 scorecard.
He's P4P #1, has a lot more wins than Mayweather, has a lot more KOs than Mayweather, has a much better record than Pacquiao, has a higher KO % than Pacquiao, has never been down or stopped in his entire career while Pacquiao has been KO'd 3 times, he is a bigger draw than Mayweather or Pacquiao have ever been, he just set the US Indoor attendance record, need I go on?
