Even so, Wilder was 231 for his last fight, with Fury. This is without having any legs-I have never seen a HW, even through much of boxing history when their in ring weight was not more than an average modern LHW, who had their upper legs listed at only 18". That is almost supermodel thin. Tale of the tape is often wrong, but usually it means that a proportion is exaggerated. Like Wilder ,listed as having a 15" forearm, that must be incorrect. But if he has an 18" thigh, that is extraordinary. Like he was in one of the lightest divisions & very short.
If you want to call it that, go ahead. I prefer to describe it as a " common sense with no agenda against a certain type " thread. Should be right up your street.
that's the Point, REAL TIME, in Today's Real Time - 5'11" - 6' 2" fighters wouldn't be fighting at HW!!! you STOP, can't you see that... just look at the Tale of the Tape for TODAY's MWs, S-MWs and L-HWs. so these Past Era HW's, wouldn't be HW's Today, pretty simply, logical and VISIBLE Real Time understanding, isn't it? look at the "Tale of the Tapes" for SIZES!!!
You're the guy who bleats on about a big conspiracy with Covid. How could anyone take your opinions seriously, apart from Lencore, who is on another lengthy ban for being a pillock.
Not 'conspiracy' just Opposing Silenced Professional Voices... that should concern anyone, that these scientist, doctors and professionals are denied airtime... so you can call it conspiracy, but these same Professionals have gotten, Tens of Thousands of Signed Legal Cases against World Health Organizations and Governments Active right now around the Western World. that concerns me, and it has Nothing to do with opinion, anybody's. MW's - L-HW's
Is it beyond your capabilities to imagine that, if a heavyweight just needed to be big, maybe a trainer ot two over the last hundred years might have stopped to consider this? All Ray Arcel needed to do during his bum of the month club times was find a big guy over 6'5" and he would have defeated Louis? No guys around that height boxing during Ali's time? Why not? Why didn't Carnera or Valuev dominate for a decade, they were big weren't they?
It's not common sense though, it's completely illogical. If height and weight, rather than skill, we're so important, there never would have been a Marciano, Frazier or Tyson, even a Ruiz. There have been smaller heavyweight champs throughout the last hundred years, the very best have mostly been around 6'2"-6'4". Do you think there have never been big guys up until the last 10 years? Do you, some bloke on an Internet forum, know better than every heavyweight boxing trainer throughout the last century?
You appear to be struggling with the understanding of this thread. It is directed at those few who tell us that the likes of Bowe, Lewis etc could not exist as they did in the real world. Get someone to explain the opening post to you.
[QUOTE="UltimateDestroyer, post: 21060409, member: 123688" Why didn't Carnera or Valuev dominate for a decade, they were big weren't they?[/QUOTE] Now this is ironic as those same few who this thread is directed at have been bleating on for years about just how great Carnera is. Those same few also voted that he was more talented than Bowe.
Believe it or not, Max Baer was listed as having 18" thighs by the time he fought Joe Louis, and he weighed 210 there.
If evolution doesn't explain height increases, what does? Most geneticists believe that the improvement in childhood nutrition has been the most important factor in allowing humans to increase so dramatically in stature.
