Robin Givens and the fall of Mike Tyson...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Illmatic, Jul 27, 2007.


  1. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how much did she contribute to his downfall...check out the vids, especially the second... You could see the pain in Cus' wife's voice

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  2. Brace

    Brace New Member Full Member

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    She (Robin Givens) contributed alot, no doubt about that. She came in and disrupted Mike's whole team. She convinced Tyson to bring in Don King and she was defiantly after his money, everybody knows that. He would have never lost the Douglas fight if it had not been for her. She was a big distraction at that time.I remember Tyson wrecking his car weeks leading into the fight (Yes Givens) was a big contributor to his downfall.
     
  3. a.arthur.h

    a.arthur.h Original Lightning Full Member

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    He's very romantic..things like putting a diamond under your pillow..or ask him to bring back something, and he brings back a porsche.
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    Disgusting gold-digging *censored...................*good for nothing *censored......* never amount to *censored* in her *censored...........* life.

    Cus's death sent him reeling, but it didn't help having scavengers like this around.
     
  4. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and look at her interview ringside...she can barely choke down the words when she said she loves Mike
     
  5. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    I love Mike more than she probably ever did.
     
  6. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    She had king come in and it was the downfall of his wholelife. King ruined him not her. JMHO
     
  7. mario

    mario Member Full Member

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    she totally ruined him, a total scumbag, she drove him to the edge and pushed him over, the bull**** miscarriage to get him to marry her, her talking about her"domestic life with mike" on 20/20, she tried clearing out his bank accounts, the list goes on and on, she bled him dry, and she is still today using his name, pullling it through mud to promote some bull**** book about herself
     
  8. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. :hey
     
  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. Between Givens and that lying slut Desiree Washington, I don't know which is worse, or which contributed more to destroying Tyson.

    Of course, King was a HUGE part of it, too.
     
  10. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Robing Givens was the jab that set up the Don King knockout"

    great line
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    People who try and make excuses up for Tyson's downfall had a bigger impact.

    The truth was Tyson rarely took responsiblites for his own actions. But that was not helped by the people around him worrying more about his boxing than his mental make up and social skills.

    Sadly D'Amato, Rooney and Jacobs had a lot more to do with his downfall than Givens. They were misguided in throwing him into the deep end of a boxing career without sorting his other demons out first. This not using hindsight either, you could see from the moment he exploded onto the scene, Tyson was a flawed genius.
     
  12. a.arthur.h

    a.arthur.h Original Lightning Full Member

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    They kept him in check, keeping him training properly and focusing on his next opponents. The fact is, Tyson was a troubled person his whole life, and D'Amato and the others weren't psychiatrists/psycologists, they helped him the way they knew how, by giving him something to be proud of in his life and keeping him focused on it. When they were out of the picture he was set free in a sense and self-destructed.

    Yes, he should have been given professional help, but that falls on King's shoulders too, he didn't bother to help when Tyson was plummeting into self-destruction. He just put him in the ring to make the big money. (And I'm not talking about doctors writing scripts for Zoloft. I'm talking about true, long-term psychiatric treatment.)

    When you throw a kid who has never been taught restraint and self-respect out into the world with millions of dollars, beautiful women, and devious buisnessmen, he will be torn to pieces and left a shell of himself if he isn't dead. And what you see now is the shell of a troubled kid who was given the world with no idea and no guidance as to how to handle it.

    Cus and the others had a role. But by and large they kept him on the right track or at least tried to the best they knew how. You cannot say the same about Don King and the rest of the leeches however.
     
  13. karmazon

    karmazon impossible is a dare Full Member

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    Tyson KO Givens in first round.
     
  14. a.arthur.h

    a.arthur.h Original Lightning Full Member

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    That would be so wrong..I guess I must be a horrible person cause I'd tune in to watch that fight :oops:.
     
  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes King has his part in the Tyson down fall as well. But I notice there is no reference to the man who had ultimate responsibilty and that is Tyson himself.

    He was not a stupid man, he actually seemed very articulate and street smart. But he choose not to address his own demons, and had enough yes men around him and fans in general to close his eyes and ignore his glaring faults...