Eddie hearn reacts to the Wilder court case (video)

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Probably not but would you trust Big Al and the machine they've got behind The Tuscaloser? OG Bob did say the ruling was very unusual.
     
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  2. alangjk

    alangjk Active Member Full Member

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    Guess I'm like Eddie Hearn now, hope, hope, hope.
     
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  3. N17

    N17 VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    You know I'm joking, you have "handsome" energy just like me.


    Yeah I think the vast majority did, it still may get sorted out, maybe a one fight deal the something next year.
     
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  4. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Can't they just pay off Wilder? 20$ dollars is nothing in the grand scheme of things, as awful as that is to say.

    ****ing Wilder greedy *****.
     
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  5. Sampneb

    Sampneb Active Member Full Member

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    If they are getting $75M for the Saudi fight plus USA and UK PPVs, Fury can easily afford to give Wilder $25M and he still makes big money with more to come in December.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's COVER YOUR ASS DAY for Hearn, Arum, Frank and Fury.

    Hearn tipped his hand at about the 4:40 mark. He said if the Fury team don't get their act together by "the end of this week" they are moving on to Plan B (Usyk). LOL

    The man who has been saying for six months that the Fury-Joshua site money would arrive and the fight would be announced in a "matter of days" ... and who couldn't understand how people couldn't just wait ... now gives Fury's team until the end of this week to sort this out or he (Hearn) is moving on. (LOL)

    He's essentially hopped in his getaway car.

    There was no SITE MONEY. There is no FIGHT SITE. It hasn't been built yet.

    Arum and Fury should've never taken the bait and moved on six months ago.

    But they all got more greedy than usual. Even Usyk, who is now a bloated 230 pounds because he was already counting that step-aside money, was caught off guard and is now exposed. (LOL)

    We should've been watching Fury-Wilder 3 and Joshua-Usyk THIS MONTH ... in venues that actually exist, for tickets that actually go on sale.

    Once the arbitrator ruled, now Hearn acts like he had the site fee in hand and the site was ready and everything was a go ... and that will be his story from now on.

    It's Barry Hearn's 'HIGH NOON IN HONG KONG' all over again, except, in that case, there was actually a stadium and a ring set up when the money never showed.

    Eddie one-upped him. He didn't even have a freaking building. (LOL)
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no Saudi fight. There is no site fee. There is no stadium. They drug this out hoping it would arrive, hoping a big windfall would change the arbitrator's mind, hoping a big windfall could cover the costs of paying everyone off ... AND THE SITE FEE NEVER CAME.

    Now Eddie gives Fury's team until the end of this week or "Hearn" is moving on. (LOL)

    They are all con men.

    This has generally been fun to watch for NEARLY a YEAR now. But time to move on. Can't "talk" about fights forever.

    It's time to see some.
     
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  8. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We all knew the case was still going through arbitration and we all assumed Wilder would lose.

    I'm surprised Hearn put so much effort into making Joshua/Fury. When there was a potential banana skin, that we all knew about and could stop the fight going ahead.

    Part of me feels that the fact this would have been one of the biggest fights in boxing history and didn't have an American in the running, played a part in the decision going Wilders way. Fight was between two Brits and in Saudi Arabia. Probably stupid of me to think that. I wonder if the decision would have been the same if Covid wasn't an excuse for Wilder not wanting the fight.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

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    The arbitrator was included in the contracts when Wilder and Fury first signed their deal years ago. He was included in case either side tried to break the contract they all signed.

    The only reason why the arbitrator ruled against Fury is because Fury's side is the side that tried to break the contract.

    If Wilder had tried to break the contract, and Fury said make him honor the deal, then the arbitrator would've ruled in Fury's favor.

    It's just a deal they signed and they all agreed to it. It was never that complicated.

    Then Fury and Arum got what they thought was a "better" deal ... and tried to break the contract. They thought if a mountain of money came pouring in from Saudi Arabia, they could buy their way out or convince everyone involved to agree to change the contract. But the money never came, and it isn't coming now, and they can't buy their way out.

    The arbitrator was always going to rule on the side of the CONTRACT.

    Whether the people who signed it would agree to change the contract was always up in the air, because people are people. They all hoped Eddie could get the money and then they'd figure a way out of the contract ...

    But the money never came. So there's no buying their way out.

    That's all, really.

    Now Eddie can walk away, save face, pretend he had the money and the deal and the site and everything all along ... when they didn't have any of those things.

    And Fury and his team can blame Wilder ... when all he did was exercise his rematch clause, get new trainers, and prepare for the third fight.

    The only guy I feel for is Usyk. Fury, Joshua and Wilder are ripped and ready to fight. Usyk looks like he's spent the past six months eating most of expected step aside fee.

    If Usyk ever had a chance against Joshua, he doesn't now. He's going to get killed by Joshua. (LOL)
     
  10. deadACE

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    About your suggestion that the money was never forthcoming. Its interesting that a place and a date was agreed upon. I dont know the fulls ins and outs of making a fight, but to have a place and a date set, would seem presumptuous without money also being agreed.

    I seem to recall that there was a deadline for the 3rd fight, which was missed and the fault lay with Wilder. For the arbitrator to side with Wilder, after he was the reason the fight didn't go ahead. I think is where people have been surprised. What mitigating circumstances must team Wilder have used to explain missing the deadline.
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    No. Contrary to popular belief, Deontay Wilder did not cause the COVID pandemic. (LOL)

    The third fight was going to be held at the Raiders stadium late last year. But ESPN and Fox, which had rights to broadcast, asked the sides to move the fight back into 2021, because there were too many conflicts with other sporting events happening in the U.S. in December 2020 and January 2021 as they tried to return and keep their leagues going to a conclusion.

    All sides agreed to move the date back to 2021 when crowds could return for the fight. The rematch broke the gate receipt record for the state of Nevada. They never wanted to take gate receipts off the table. And crowds have been returning this spring.

    It seems like we've been talking about this forever, but if Hearn hadn't jumped in the fray, they'd have announced Wilder-Fury 3 after the Super Bowl and they'd have fought by now.

    In the end, all Hearn managed to do was get everyone riled up and delay big fights that should've been happening last weekend and this weekend ... and get them pushed back to July/August.

    But we'll always have the memories of the raging, hate-filled arguments. (LOL)
     
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  12. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just to point out that it isn't really a proper court - it is arbitration, which I think it is fair to say will have been specified in the contract as the way to resolve any disputes.

    And we don't know the actual full result of the arbitration yet - and the process can't force Fury to fight Wilder. But I think it might specify what compensation Wilder is due, if Fury doesn't want to agree to a third fight. But... The WBC (like all the sanctioning bodies) nearly always follow the money. And the money is with Fury/Joshua.
    So the arbitration process might say Wilder is due a third fight based on the contract, but I think it will also likely specify the compensation Wilder is due, rather than allow Wilder to try and hold Fury to random to negotiate "step aside" money...Arum is a shrewd Cookie he's known whats been lurking in the wings...Remember a couple of weeks ago Arum saying that the deal was “dead in the water”? Turns out he was right...lol, whatever happens the money Oops Fans will win, so Eddie says...
     
  13. deadACE

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    I'm sure I heard Wilder was patient zero with covid lol.

    If, as you say, all parties agreed to delay the fight, then why did Fury agree to then fight Joshua. I would hardly blame Hearn for that as he was not part of the agreement to delay the 3rd fight, Fury was.

    Hearn did go ahead regardless. In what was ill-advised and futile considering the outcome of the arbitration.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    I don't blame Hearn for taking a big swing and trying to make history.

    I've said that before. They all got where they are by taking big swings.

    But it didn't work. And I think they all knew that for a while now, but they needed a scapegoat so they could all save face.

    The arbitrator (and Wilder) are the scapegoats.

    Eddie, IMO, looked relieved in that video.
     
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  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one seems to blaming Wilder or the arbitrators. It's Arum and Warren fault for lying to everyone saying "Wilder didn't have a leg to stand on legally" and that the arbitrators isn't going to be issue.

    Wasted AJ, Fury, Wilder, Usyk, Joyce and Eddies time.

    That said Bob's can still offer Wilder step aside money but he doesn't actually seem keen on making the AJ vs Fury fight after all.