Greater Fighter: Calzaghe or GGG?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    Roy wasn’t post prime, he was completely finished as a top level fighter. He literally hadn’t had a top level win in 5 years.
     
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  2. Loudon

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    Obviously you don’t want to debate.

    If Roy was really a can crusher, then what on earth would that make GG??
     
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  3. Scar

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    Cotto wasn't prime material either and was cashing out, as he deserved to after making a career taking risks and truly establishing his name fighting serious opposition. Golovkin was a nobody at the time barking for a payday while munching on hopeless opponents like Rubio and Ouma. Even after that, his first step up was Welterweight Kell Brook. :lol:
     
  4. Loudon

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    Miguel Cotto CHOSE to move up to the MW division.

    Canelo Alvarez CHOSE to move up to the MW division.

    Gennady Golovkin was the WBA, MW champion, AND their MANDATORY challenger.

    Gennady Golovkin was fighting guys like Rubio, BECAUSE guys like Canelo and Cotto WOULDN’T fight him.

    It’s pretty dumb to criticise a guy for fighting low level guys when the elite level fighters at his weight wouldn’t fight him.

    I don’t know how you’re unable to see that.

    Has it not occurred to you that had those guys have been willing to have fought him, that Kell Brook wouldn’t have been his first top level opponent?

    You can’t see the wood for the trees.
     
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  5. gollumsluvslave

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    He wasn't barking for a payday, the only consistent noises GGG made around that time was that he wanted all the belts @160. THAT's where Cotto, then Canelo came from. It was the WBC belt he was wanting.
     
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  6. Scar

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    Oh yes, and he eventually got his WBC against a Welterweight.
     
  7. Scar

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    Indeed he did, and he also CHOSE not to give a barking beggar who's biggest win was Ouma a free payday.
     
  8. Pimp C

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    That's right what does he have to do with ggg not being an atg? I was talking about ggg and how he would get schooled by a atg in Calzaghe. You chose to bring up Calzaghe beating hopkins and rjj. Calzaghe is an atg we're talking about ggg not being one. Btw it would be funny to watch rjj tee off on ggg with 3, 4 and 5 shot combos and have ggg shell up until his corner threw in the towel or he quit.
     
  9. gollumsluvslave

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    Because Chris Eubank Jr shat it and lost his pen. BJS at that time by his own admisson wouldn't go near GGG.

    Brook was the only one to actually have any balls and step up to the plate - and it cost him badly.
     
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  10. Loudon

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    You’re all over the place.

    You’ve just laughed at the notion that Cotto wouldn’t fight him. Yet you’re now saying that he chose not to fight him.

    A barking beggar?

    How dare a fellow MW champ want to unify against his mandatory?

    Scandalous, huh?

    The truth is, you think that GG is/was overrated, and you have a very deep dislike of him and his fan base. So much so, that it’s made you completely irrational.

    Again, THEY moved up to HIS division, where he was the champ and their mandatory challenger.

    Cotto wouldn’t fight him at MW and dropped back to JMW, and Oscar delayed the fight for as long as possible.

    None of those things were GG’s fault.

    Yes, at the time, GG hadn’t fought anybody of note. But again, that wasn’t his fault. A fighter has to have an opportunity.

    Canelo had done nothing before he picked up a vacant belt and defended it against 2 Euro level Brits in Matthew Hatton and Ryan Rhodes. He then got the opportunity to face a washed up Mosley, before then going on to fight Floyd.

    You cannot blame GG for having a weak resume when he did NOT have the opportunity to make it stronger.

    You are completely biased and ignorant.
     
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  11. Loudon

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    Yeah, because Canelo GAVE IT UP to fight Liam Smith.

    But that was GG’s fault, right? SMH.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    To be fair, I think that it was Snr who cost Jnr the fight. But either way, Cotto, Canelo, Sturm, Martinez and BJS wouldn’t fight him.
     
  13. Scar

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    If a Welterweight and the likes of Rubio had balls, then others have no issues either. It's just a matter of options. Why give a barking nobody with zero notable wins on his record a free payday when they can make better money elsewhere.
     
  14. Scar

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    You are clearly mentally ill. You honestly think Golovkin's primary aim was to unify?. :lol: The guy has been collecting paper titles against hopeless opponents all his career. Even his step ups were against smaller opponents.
     
  15. Scar

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    Who sent a Welterweight the offer?. Was Kell Brook his mandatory too?. :lol: