More powerful Left Hook Joe Frazier or Henry Cooper

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Who throws better Left hook?

  1. Joe Frazier

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  2. Henry Cooper

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  1. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    His kinfolk in Africa got it in stereo then.
     
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  2. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cooper said that he noticed that Ali stepped straight back when Cooper jabbed. So he jabbed to make Ali back onto the ropes, then hooked.
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don’t have time to look for it but I’m like 90 percent certain he had stepped on his foot. Think there is a photo from another angle
     
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  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Deus Vult Full Member

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    In terms of concussive impact clearly Frazier's hook was far more damaging. He put everything into that punch. Cooper's hook was more of a surprise shot that Ali never saw coming.
     
  5. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Wtf even is that? did they have him punch a bathroom scales like Shavers? then compare it to them dropping a bowling ball?
    It is like when they say Muay Thai fighters kicks are measured to have the force of a baseball bat I have felt both and would volunteer to be kicked if I had to pick one or the other.
     
  6. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know.
    I, too, have been hit with a bat and punched and kicked on numerous occasions. Getting hit with a bat was worse than all of them except a right hand I got hit with 40 plus years ago. But I didn't know how much that hurt until recently.
    Good to see you back.
     
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  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    The bat feels worse because it's so dense and completely solid. If a punch is hard enough and lands on a sensitive area like the jaw, you won't even feel it.
     
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  8. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Thanks mate. Yeah Hockey stick was my worst single shot straight on the lower back.
    Must have A been a bad shot from the batsmen or B that right hand was thrown by a bad dude.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope you realize that, despite your thread title asking who has the more powerful left hook, the poll asks who has the better left hook which is why Frazier is the overwhelming majority pick.
     
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  10. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While his kinfolk in Ireland just shrugged it off like a pesky fly.
     
  11. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Cooper punch was very similar to the hook Frazier landed in the 11th with Ali against the ropes which I think shook Ali more. It was, like 'Enery's 'ammer, a short shoulder punch whereas the big hook in the 15th was a sweep coming from the legs through his hips. A more dramatic punch but one that saw power dissipate as it covered such a long trajectory.

    So out of the two shots in the OP, I'd say Cooper's punch.

    But Cooper's punch next to Joe's short hook in the 11th, I wouldn't be so sure.
     
  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Can you imagine if Frazier had dropped Ali, in their first fight, the same round and way that Cooper did.
    Yes, he came out in the next round and absolutely cut Enery to bits, but Frazier would have being straight in there and Ali not as young and fresh. Good chance that Joe stops Ali if that happened.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Its like saying an orange and an apple are the same because they both have pips
     
  14. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Indeed his great grandfather Abe seemed to have been forgotten by Ali in this interview.
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