Regarding Hagler Vs Duran - How Close Was It IYO??

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I forget who had which rounds for the most part, except that Hagler had a big sixth and 14th and 15th. But even so, having it 9-5-1 on my card, the best then I could have given Duran was a slight deficit after 12, 6-5-1 in favor of Hagler. I think I gave Duran the 13th though, which extrapolates roughly to 7-4-1 for Hagler.
     
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had Hagler up by 1 point,I thought he pulled it out in the last round
     
  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was fairly close then Hagler finished strongly to seal a deserved UD .

    Judges seemed to love Duran. The Benitez fight was scored closer than it should have been and so was this one. One judge had him winning the Laing fight even though he won 3 rounds at most.
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler W 145-140
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    This is my round by round scorecard from 2 years ago. Bearing in mind my scoring (and post formatting) has gotten better since then, a re-watch is possibly in order. Everyone else is being lazy and just posting scores. Come on, guys!


    Roberto Duran VS Marvin Hagler
    1983

    Classic bout with two greats, that I re watched upon a request.
    I viewed this with no sound

    Duran Hagler

    RD1 - 10 -10 (Classic feeling out round)
    RD2 - 10 - 9
    RD3 - 10 - 9 (Duran winning at Mid Range, Hagler better inside)
    RD4 - 9 - 10 (Hagler snapping that jab)
    RD5 - 9 - 10 (Very close)
    RD6 - 9 - 10 (Close, great action)
    RD7 - 10 - 9 (Great generalship from Duran)
    RD8 - 10 - 9 (Very close, Duran edges with earlier work)
    RD9 - 9 - 10 (Duran looking weary)
    RD10 - 9 - 10 (Close, Hagler more forceful)
    RD11 - 10 - 9 (Hagler tentative)
    RD12 - 10 - 9
    RD13 - 9 - 10
    RD14 - 9 - 10 (Duran showboating :) )
    RD15 - 9 - 10 (Brilliant closing round)

    Total
    DURAN: 142
    HAGLER: 144

    Notes:
    1) This bout was really a battle of the feints. Very interesting exchanges throughout.
    2) This bout makes me doubt Haglers ring IQ. If he was more forceful, ala Hearns bout, this would not be such a close fight. For example, Hagler wins the 10th, then backs off in the 11th. Quite confusing.
    3) Great defense shown by both Duran and Hagler. Lots of closely missed or grazing shots throughout. Master skills.
    4) Some brilliant infighting to watch here. I never get tired of it.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Excellent.
     
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  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Scored it earlier this month on the What Fights Did You Watch Today/Scoreboard thread:

    Roberto Duran vs. Marvelous Marvin Hagler (c) for the WBA/WBC/IBF middleweight championship, scheduled for 15 rounds on Nov. 10, 1983 — a Thursday, oddly enough — at Ceasars Palace Outdoor Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    Hagler (57-2-2) comes in at 157 1/2 while Duran (77-4) is a pound lighter. Marvin is a 3/1 or 4/1 favorite (depending on your source) and has won all seven defenses of his 160-pound crown by stoppage. Duran is on a revival after stopping Pipino Cuevas and Davey Moore, the latter to capture the 154-pound WBA title.

    Hagler is guaranteed $5M but will take home $8M according to reports; Duran guaranteed $1.5M but would make $4M (each had a percentage of the closed circuit sales).

    Round 1, 10-10 even: very little going on

    Round 2, 10-9 Duran: Roberto finds a home for his right lead

    Round 3, 10-9 Duran: More accurate rights and good defense

    Round 4, 10-9 Duran: Some quick combos, Hagler’s jab ineffective

    Round 5, 10-9 Hagler: Closes the distance, much busier

    Round 6, 10-9 Hagler: Grinds inside, chews Duran up

    Round 7, 10-9 Hagler: Close, Duran boxes well but Hagler finishes better

    Round 8, 10-9 Duran: Again close, Duran a real cutie here

    Round 9, 10-9 Hagler: Closes the distance again and works well inside especially to the body

    Round 10, 10-9 Hagler: More of the same but Duran pot-shots well in spots

    Round 11, 10-9 Duran: Curious round as Hagler gets on his bicycle and basically throws nothing

    Round 12, 10-9 Duran: Right hands from Roberto again, good inside action, Hagler’s left eye starts to close and he is also cut over it

    Round 13, 10-9 Hagler: Close round, Duran lands some good rights but Hagler does slightly better work early to edge it

    Round 14, 10-9 Duran: Yet another close one but I thought Duran’s accuracy with the right edged it with him also nullifying a lot of Hagler’s work

    Round 15, 10-9 Hagler: Closes strong and rakes Duran over the coals a bit

    My card: 143-143 even, 7-7-1 in rounds

    Official cards, 144-142, 144-143, 146-145 all for Hagler

    Interesting strategic fight. Hagler’s camp expected Duran to try to brawl like he did in the Moore fight but Duran came in to box all the way and did a pretty good job of it. When Hagler played the bully as in the sixth, 15th and parts of other rounds, he beat Duran up pretty good.

    My card comes down to what you do with the first and to me there was nothing to choose. I think most people gave Duran the 13th and Hagler the 14th and while both were close, I had it the opposite. And somebody tell me what Marvin was thinking in the 11th when he basically gave a round away.

    Worth a watch if you haven’t seen it for sure, a rewatch if you haven’t seen it for a while.
     
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  8. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Hagler was a force to reckon with. Styles make fights, Duran came to box, and people forget how good of a boxer he was. All in all, it was great to have those fighters competing against each other, in their prime. I have Hagler winning clearly, in a competitive fight.
     
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