So this is the guy you say it would just be another day in the park when facing Deontay Wilder?

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  1. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bro don`t ever put the GOAT Lewis with that garbage Wilder. Lewis will 100% annihilate him.
    And yeah i`m talking about this guy:
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  4. Unforgiven

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    Lewis would probably have destroyed Wilder but I do feel Lewis gets overrated.

    Lewis seems to almost get a completely pass for losing by KO to those two mediocrities. Yes, he won rematches, but no way is he the greatest of all-time or close to it if he's getting KO'd early by ordinary guys like that.
     
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  5. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ffs Wilder is Michael Grant level at best.


    Lewis would have made very, very easy work of Wilder. Wilderw best win of Ortiz wouldn't even be in Lewis's top 10 wins.
     
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  6. boxingspitbucket24

    boxingspitbucket24 Active Member banned Full Member

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    I'd pick Lewis and Rahman over Wilder. They're both better than anyone Wilder has beaten.

    I would however pick Wilder over McCall. And even tho McCall was only stopped once in his career, Wilder should be able to put him to sleep.

    If Wilder KOs Fury in the 3rd fight I'd likely change my tune.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    Wilder would spark Rahman out.
     
  8. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    lewis got beat by bums
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Lewis went 1-1 against Rahman.
    The same Rahman who was 0-2 against Oleg Maskaev.

    Rahman was Stiverne-level.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And how exactly he is overrated? And i`m not even talking about the rematch, cause i can`t call McCall fight, a rematch.
    And its so frustrating seeing so many hypocrite people on here, and pretty much around the fans.
    They are putting some boxer to a pedestal, totally overrated them, and after they lose(which is a normal thing) they are calling them bums and start slamming on them. But then the same people are slamming on boxers and why they don`t fight the best(or the guys in great current form/shape) and that they scare to lose their precious "0" in their resume.
    Get your ***** right and decide what exactly you want.

    People should this into their head. When you are fighting quality opposition, opposition that is in great shape, you can lose, even to a lesser fighter, but that doesn't take a **** from how good you are as a fighter. This is boxing/fighting, and losing is part of the sport. Everyone have bad nights, and you pretty much train a whole year around to just be in top shape in 2 days of that year. No matter how much of a account you are doing, a lot of thing can messed up, and in this exact days to not be in a great shape, the tactic/strategy to be wrong, or just not having a great day and not feel alright on the ring.
    Its happen.
    So just because someone have certain loses in his resume, that doesn't mean a s..... Just check UFC for example. Most top fighters have plenty of loses, but thats due to fighting other top quality fighters regularly.

    But i guess its better to be like Wilder, padding you record like truck drivers, but to keep that precious 0 on your resume. And when you actually fight a real fighter, you get so much delusional you blame everyone that cheated you ....
    You should judge a fighter by their skill. And if you know anything about boxing and have an eye for it, that shouldn't be too hard.
     
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  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder has no Chin. No Ring IQ. No Heart. No Skills. None. He is a product of careful matchmaking and was extremely coddled.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    I don't think Lennox Lewis is an elite all-time great in the same category as Ali or even Holmes, while many seem to.

    Of course, Lennox faced a lot of ranked contenders and beat most of them.
    He'll be remembered as a good champion.
    But when compared to some of the greatest fighters, the nature of his 2 career losses while he was champion are pretty bad.
    Sparked out by ordinary basic skill contenders.
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And that mean a s..... Just because you have off night mean nothing. Why in the blue hell you will define someone legacy by a loss?
    Its not like that in any f***** sport out there, but boxing fans are trying to do it.
    Lewis has absolutely have top class resume, top class legacy, and i don`t see anyone beat him H2H.
    Again the so call lesser fighter can still put their s**** together and have great camp at night, at certain time. Yeah they may not be overall great, but this pretty much separate them from the rest, that occasionally they bring it. And you are matching this with a off night of a fighter, and you for example end up with Klitschko getting destroyed by Corrie Sanders, or Joshua by Ruiz, and Lewis losses.
    And while out of prime Ali lost to a guy that have more loses, than KO in his career.
    GSP from UFC have 2 bad loses, but that doesn`t take a ****** from his greatness and legacy.
    Again loses are not the thing that define your legacy.
     
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  14. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder has change against anyone with his range and power
     
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  15. Brighton bomber

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    I think Lewis would have an easier time with Wilder than he would against some inferior fighters. Styles makes fights and Lewis is all wrong for Wilder.

    We know Wilder can't fight on the back foot as he can't get leverage on his right hand when moving back and we know Lewis presses against similar sized opponents. So Wilder having a punchers chance is next to meaningless as he has no method of actually being able to generate that power vs Lewis' style.

    Fury dominated Wilder utilising the Kronk method that Lewis was trained in by Steward. Fury literally mimicked Lewis to beat Wilder and Lewis hits way harder than Fury. Wilder wouldn't make it out of round 3.