Difference between Floyd and Manny

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    They did when his brother fought... Ben Askren.

    So, yeah, I do. And good for them, I guess.
     
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  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO !!! Run away & play little man The grown-ups are here
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I wouldnt walk across the street for a free ringside seat to any Mayweather farce. Anyone that pays for that circus act should be certified ROFL. BUT All you Floyd/Canelo groupies will be paying to watch a total farce
    Ive NEVER had to pay to see any fight
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    This guy is #1 contender for MVC's title TROLL P4P champ
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    What a clown this guy is. Poor kid aint got a clue
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Like everything he posts is.
     
  7. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I know it's an act CJ. I get it wink wink lol
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When did that happen? Because in reality Canelo boxed Floyd on even terms for most of those 12 rounds, got a draw on one card and lost a respectable, close decision (8-4, 9-3) on the two other cards. In your mind, those close scores translate to boxed Canelo's head off? Boy are you delusional. I bet you think GGG beat Canelo, too huh. What's it like to live in such a fantasy realm?
     
  9. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    "Close fight"

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    But, but, but Floyd ran though.
    But, but, but Canelo was too green.
    But, but, but Golovkin ran though.
    But, but, but Lara ran though.
    But, but, but it was the tainted beef though.
    But, but, but CJ Ross was just doing her job.

    :lupie:
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those aren't my arguments, those are strawmans. And if you want to get into posting the "highlights" the highlights would be hand picked to showcase Mayweather's best moments and ignoring Canelo's highlights. There was an obvious agenda to make Mayweather's win be better than it was because his fans and the larger boxing public were so damn insecure about how Canelo took Mayweather to his limit. And this was not a faded Mayweather, this was a Mayweather who was still in the twilight of his prime.

    But lets go through your strawmans. Floyd didn't run like Lara did. Floyd stayed in the pocket for most of the night. Though he pulled back anticipating punches that never came far too often, otherwise known as biting on feints, which I pointed out long before Canelo was known for being a master of feints as he is now. Reference : Tim Bradley's latest video where he talks about the brilliant fake right hand come back with the left feint that he did against Billy Joe Saunders. Yeah several years ago I was talking about Canelo's feints vs Mayweather which up to that point nobody even noticed. Why? Because it flies in the face of the supposed Mayweather schooling myth that has become so popular. Biting on that amount of feints is evidence of being schooled, not schooling someone.

    Mayweather bent down below the waist countless times througout the match vs Canelo, which is technically a foul. No one until that dude posted that video about it ever talked about it. Mayweather did this because he had nowhere else to go. Canelo still peppered him when he popped back up. Mayweather had all kinds of problems when his back hit the ropes vs Canelo. And when Canelo went back to the ropes in the 10th round, Mayweather couldn't land anything with Canelo on the ropes and Mayweather realized this so he backed away. Then he tried to do the same thing to Canelo and backed up himself, and proceeded to get hit with a 12 punch combination including 2 big right hands that rocked Mayweather. But no one talks about this because this would destory the Myth that Mayweather dominated. What would you fools do without me to set you straight on this fight?

    Now, don't get me wrong Mayweather fanboys or Canelo detractors, Mayweather had his schooling moments as well, in the big 7th round, in the 2nd half of the 8th round, a little bit in te 9th round, and again in the 11th round. Maywether did some schooling after he made his adjustments midway through the fight, but lets not get crazy and act like this was a wire to wire cruise for Mayweather. THe first 6 rounds Canelo fought on on even terms, and most of the rounds were close. He didn't run like Lara (Lara did run, there's a difference between boxing and running) but he struggled to the finish line. Floyd was even booed for stalling in the 12th round don't you remember? Canelo was the most grueling fight of Mayweather's career. And this was a drained, pre-Prime Canelo. But no, I woudn't call him "green", I never have. People call him Green as code for him being weight drained due to Mayweather's cowardly catchweight without saying weight drained because saying that would detract from Mayweather's win.

    GGG didn't run in the Canelo rematch, but he did backup and fight off the backfoot aftr calling for a come-forward toe-to-toe Mexican style war. He didn't live up to his own expectation that he set for the rematch.

    Tainted beef / CJ Ross - Either you believe in conspiracies or you don't. And remember what happened to Billy Joe Saunders who said to Canelo at the face-off "you like the beef" what did Canelo say - "I love it" then what happened to Billy Joe Saunders lol. So that should tell you what happens to people who say Canelo lives the tainted beef. They get their face smashed in. So I suggest you let go of the beef, so you don't get your face smashed in like Billy Joe did lol.

    CJ Ross saw what she saw - a close fight. I made it very clear I didn't think it was a draw but there were plenty of close rounds. When you take into account all the Mayweather dipping down below the waist like in the 8th round, this was a round that Ross gave to Canelo. I thought Floyd pretty clearly won that round down the stretch, but the first half of the round was very close. We can only guess as to what Ross was seeing that round to score it for Canelo. If you decide it has to be corruption, you narrow your mind to other possibilities. If you penalize Floyd for dipping low when he was on the ropes, and still getting tagged to the body and to the head when he popped back up and if you have a bad angle on some of the punches Mayweather landed down the stretch (which was what CJ Ross said when asked about how she arrived at that score) that makes a hell of a lot more sense then concluding it has to be corruption;

    I pay attention to the small details in a match and don't fall into the trap of group think or the overwhelming dumbed down talking points from the masses. I look for reason and logic rather than being a lazy bones and just concluding corruption. That's taking the easy way out.
     
  11. blazeboxing

    blazeboxing New Member Full Member

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    wait is this the same guy who was complained about the fact that mayweather always dipped low and was never penalized for it? that thread was hilarious.

    anyway one beat women up, the other prevented people to use condoms and have a better life. To each his own dubious morals. Both are atg!
     
  12. shadow111

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    That wasn't my topic, but I did find that observation to be relevant. I doubt anyone noticed how far Mayweather dipped below the waist vs Canelo, and he did it in other fights like vs Hatton and a lot vs Marquez apparently. It's fair game to point out that Mayweather got away with doing something that is technically a foul, especially when his performances have been blown out of proportion to begin with.

    Prevented people from using condoms? Was that part of Manny's political campaign?
     
  13. blazeboxing

    blazeboxing New Member Full Member

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    the dip doesnt get talked nor typically penalized because it's a high risk maneuver. Only few people can get away with it because you need incredible skills and reflexes to do that. Compare it with clinching and holding. Yes sure clinching has its own set of -often not discussed- skills, but you can still stall and get away with it easily, which is why i dreaded watching Wladimir Klitschko. You dont get the luxury to stall action with a dip, if anything you are even more vulnerable (see saunders). The condom thing is something that happened years ago where he tried to stop a campaign where low-income families would be given condoms for free. Unfortunate just as much as when he called gay people worse than animals or something along the line. My point is they are both fallible humans, ignorant and unlikeable, but because of different reasons. The narrative is different though because Pacquiao is seen as the good guy and Mayweather the "heel". Boxing is a show too, to an extent..
     
  14. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That little man has been fighting LHW and 168 fighter's, While your hero ggg fights blown up Walter weights or 154 fighter's
     
  15. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    remember when you commented on the german being one-eyed about DM?
    you do the same thing to a point too.