Did more people believe Fury won the first Wilder fight after the second fight was over?

"Canelo GGG 1 was a robbery" is BS. That's what is BS.

 

Now now dont rewrite history

 

That's disrespectful to the P4P King. It's also disrespectful to the P4P King to claim that Mayweather dominated him when he didn't even come close to doing that. I nip this kind of BS in the bud, and as you know I'm very effective at doing so. You're welcome.

 

Mayweather clowned him lol
Nipped in bud indeed

P4P king, man you ride him hard

Anyone in another thread if you wanna carry on

 

He is the P4P King my man. It's about time you recognize the King of Boxing and start respecting the King of Boxing. You don't wanna face plant yourself like Billy Joe Saunders now do ya.

 

Theres a few boxers that can be called that

Quite the subjective topic that one

Of course you would think its Canelo, and thats fine as he states a good claim to it

But get his nuts out your mouth please lol

 

Bro, Canelo is the Clear P4P #1 at this point. Even prominent figures and major publications who in the past had other people P4P #1 now agree that Canelo has cemented himself as P4P #1 with his recent performances.

The last hold out of a major sports network who didn't have Canelo #1 P4P was ESPN, and just a few days ago they finally updated their rankings to reflect Canelo now as P4P #1. ESPN was the only major source who was holding out with Crawford still #1. Now that has changed.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_...-rankings-new-no-1-well-deserved-debut-top-10

 

I scored Fury Wilder 1 a draw. Fury 7 - Wilder 5 with two 10 8s.

That whole fight was a lot of non activity where so many rounds could've gone either way. I re-watched and rescored the fight multiple times as most here thought Fury boxed a shut out. But draw or close win either way is all I could come up with. It was not one sided at all and I'd be happy to compare cards with anyone and break rounds down.

That's why I was so surprised by Fury Wilder 2 because it was more one sided than Andy Ruiz sitting on a teeter-totter.

 

Well I would say it's similar to the Taylor v Ramirez fight, whereby had Taylor not scored the two knock downs, the Vegas judges would have more than likely scored one of those rounds in favour of Ramirez, completely flipping the outcome.

I.e. professional judges are experienced enough to know how to work in the margins.

The British judge in the Fury v Wilder 1 was clearly keeping it close enough that Wilder only needed a KD to save himself in the final round.
In reality Wilder should have needed a knock OUT to save his belt or multiple KDs in round 12 to close the gap. Remember, somehow the British judge pulled rounds out of his ass for Wilder. But it is within degrees of argumentation


..but that's child's play compared to Alejandro Rochin's quite frankly criminal scorecard.
Anyone care to explain how a judge gave Wilder 7 rounds to Fury's 5?

Hence a robbery. And a pretty blatant one at that.

 

I had Fury winning the first fight with Wilder by three points iirc, even with the knockdowns. In the 12th round, Fury got up from the KD and won the rest of the round. It was always my view that Fury won the first Wilder bout.

Over the two fights, Fury must have won about 14 or 15 of the 18 rounds completed imo and he then forced a stoppage in the seventh round in the rematch.

 

Its all subjective though isnt it

Answer me this, before all these media outlets put Canelo as number 1, who did you have as number 1?

If as i suspect its Canelo then point proven
Its all subjective and personally i wont be dictated to by any publication
Ill make my own mind up



P. S i absolutely love how you jumped at me for a second saying Canelo might not be number 1 but no dispute of his balls being in your mouth lol

 

So you think the British judge had ESP and somehow knew Wilder would get a KD in the 12th? Do you realize how crazy that sounds? If the fix were in, the judge never would have allowed his card to get into that position. Moreover, that same judge had Fury sweeping the final three rounds that did not include a KD (8, 10, 11). None of that tracks with a fixed card.

The Rochin card was bad, but that's why you have three judges. Two of the three got it right, as I recall identical cards except they split the 6th round. Rochin's problem is that he gave Wilder the first four. Not a lot happened in those rounds, and neither man deserved to sweep them. I never give fighters a big lead like that in non-action rounds, so I generally try to split them to one degree or another. I think I had it 3-1 Fury after 4, tho. Both of the other judges (again, nearly identical cards) had Fury up 4-1 after 5 rounds.

Two of the three judges were on point with their scoring. I had Fury winning, but a draw was perfectly fine. If you're going to say a robbery is "blatant", you need to show us how it's blatant rather than whacko conspiracy theories that require a judge to be clairvoyant.

 

Sure but you tried to act like Canelo as P4P was merely my outlier opinion and not the consensus at this point.

I've had Canelo P4P #1 for a long time, in my mind, it was a toss up between Canelo and Ward after Floyd retired. For all intents and purposes, I considered Ward P4P #1 though, but when he struggled in that first Kovalev fight, got knocked down and many people thought he lost, that sort of opened up the door for Canelo, so I sort of went back and forth between Canelo and Ward for a while. But after Ward beat Kovalev in the rematch, I was so impressed with Ward that night, I thought he earned the right to be called P4P #1 after that. But of course then he retired and Canelo impressed vs GGG so for me he's been #1 P4P ever since.

I don't know what point you think you're proving by me having Canelo P4P #1 for as long as I have. if anything, the fact that he's the consensus P4P #1 now after I had him P4P #1 for the last 4 years only confirms that I was spot on in identifying who the P4P #1 was long before everyone else came to that conclusion.

This also shows that I make up my own mind too, as Canelo was not considered P4P #1 by most publications after Ward retired, and only recently has Canelo moved into a consensus P4P #1 position. It is subjective, but it definitely says something when all major publications have the same fighter P4P #1 when we're talking about who is recognized as the P4P #1 fighter in the sport now.

And you know, I have to say that a lot of what I have been talking about when it comes to P4P in general has come to fruition. I said countless times that it's not about resume persey, that it's about your skills and your performances. Canelo's recent performances are really what have cemented his place as P4P #1. The manner in which he beat Saunders and Callum Smith, it was very impressive and it's caused a lot of people to change their minds about who is P4P #1.

 

Wilder who at the time had an incredible knock out record. Yes crazy to think he might

Two judges heavily favoured wilder, one turned in a shocking card. It doesn't take much to fill in the gaps.

7-5 card. Explain it. Or continue to act the fool