Is Fury a hype job?

Definitely, if Fury beats Joshua, I think it's fair to question how good Joshua was in the first place. They will hype that win just as they hype his Wilder win. Good wins but we can question the quality of opponent.
Joshua is a good boxer but Ruiz already beat the crap out of him and made him quit, in a world title fight.
If Fury - or anyone else - beats Joshua, it ought to be measured against Ruiz's performance.

Fury wasted his career really. If he had stayed in the game after he beat Klitschko, and defeated Klitschko again, and then fought Wilder and Joshua around 2017, he probably would have beat them both, and he'd move on to other opponents. Instead, we have this broken career. He's made money since he came back but he's unlikely to be remembered as a truly great fighter.

 

You act as I'd Ruiz & AJ never had a rematch, and AJ won...

 

We all know that.
But that doesn't erase the fact that Ruiz beat him up, does it ?

 

No, but you seem to always forget that they're 1-1. AJ got redemption, but you keep harping on about the first fight like it's the only fight.

 

If Fury - or anyone else - beats Joshua it will be measured against Ruiz's win against Joshua. That's my point.
It won't be measured against the time Ruiz lost to Joshua.

 

The time out helped Fury, he avoided having to be disciplined for a rematch with Vlad, turned failing a drugs test into becoming the Heavyweight Champion of Mental Health, by the time he came back some opponents were older or retired (he never had to face Vlad again) whilst he was still relatively young for a Heavyweight. He's played it all to perfection and somehow John has tagged along and got on the gravytrain despite being a known domestic abuser and eye gouger.

He's a great boxer, absolutely no doubt about it, he's just not what he's being made out to be, the hype extends further than what he's doing in the ring and it's dangerous to have him rather naively discussing mental health issues and how to beat them because his methods aren't what any of us can apply to our lives.

 

Don't forget that he also donated ALL of his purse to "charity".

Someone nailed it on here when they said he suffers from "imposter syndrome". He's too weak to be anything other than an underdog.

 

So you'll be impressed if he beats Wilder up again ?

 

Being a huge favourite against a puncher like Wilder has the be the worst case scenario for a fighter who thrives as underdog.

 

This is true. Since Fury beat him he has been criminally disregarded by many boxing fans. That fella can beat anyone with a single punch even if he's lost the previous 11 rounds. It's naive for anyone to presume that Fury walks through him again.

 

Not really. There's no need for a rematch.

 

Clearly not.

He's had 20 odd rounds with Tyson. And not only had he not stopped him, Tyson ate his best and battered him in the rematch.

People are putting way too much stock into Wilders power, yet overlooking the fact that he's mentally shot to pieces.

Someone (Tyson) took his absolute best.
Someone (Tyson) bullied him at his own game.

How does Wilder overcome that? Listen to his nonsense since the defeat. He's mentally ruined.

 

This could be true, but he might not believe he was beaten. We've seen the number of excuses he's come out with but i think that might show a man who's truly deluded and believes that he can put that right in another fight...that's a dangerous mindset to contend with imo not the sign of a broken man.

I'm a fan of Fury but I accept that he was lucky that that first fight wasn't officiated by someone from these shores cos the fight would have been waved off without giving him a count. He got the benefit of the doubt and showed character getting up but I think a BBBofC ref would have just stopped it.

I think Wilder is very dangerous. Fury is the better boxer, as is Joshua, Usyk and whoever else but I think Wilder is capable of beating them all.

 

Prove that?

answers on a postcard my little femi fanboy.

 

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