Will Wilder be able to get over the demons over the 2nd fight beatdown?

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  1. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder obviously has taken some lessons to heart based on how he's training. He's clearly trying to address some of his deficiencies, although I agree with others it's going to be tough to add dimensions at this stage of his career.
     
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  2. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury is a lot more confident than Wilder in the third fight since he will fight the guy that he kicked his ass last time they met. The only way that Wilder can beat Fury in the third match is to end the fight as quickly as possible before he gasses out. I doubt Wilder can do it.
     
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  3. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I consider Wilder to be delusional. He bought into his own hype. He cant accept he got beat so does mental gymnastics to justify it.
    Then you have Fury who is smarter and can get under a guys skin easily. So it will lead to some humiliating press conferences.

    I worry about Wilders safety. Breland not there to throw the towel in means he wilm get a bad beat down or gets a lucky punch in that wins him the fight.
    Thats the only two ways it can end imo.
     
  4. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really.

    Lots of pressure now. Pressure is not something he's had to face. or conquer. Pressure changes a lot of things and is something that this opponent has faced and dealt with.

    At his age he is very fortunate that the Fury camp is not making him a road warrior. That would be a ton more pressure and having 98% of the fans rooting for the opponent.

    Just things he has been isolated from and he needs Fury to be on an off night/stale.
     
  5. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    As soon as Fury lands a hard clean shot (likely the first round) Wilder's PTSD kicks in.
     
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  6. DancingLeftAndRight

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    Wilder took a hammering in the 2nd Fury bout. Can Deontay overcome that? Very doubtful, but because he can punch and Fury has to be switched on always, I won't rule Wilder out altogether.
     
  7. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    He's being trained by this guy. Do as I say, not as I do?

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  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A fighter's confidence is very fragile. Often it in itself is the difference between winning and losing.
    Wilder experienced so many things last time, that he never went through before.
    He got bullied, and badly.
    As said earlier, you can believe what you want, but instictually, when you're put back into that dark place again, you're not going to be able to fool yourself.

    A fighter can build confidence again, but it's really self-belief that is what counts.
    Does Wilder still truly believe in his heart of hearts he's been annointed by God? One face, one name and all that?
    Maybe now.
    Fury could easily shatter that in the ring once again though.
    I think his self-belief is very, very fragile right now.

    And for the record, I think Fury isn't as confident as he appears either, in general. I think he hides his insecurities very well.
    But he does have a massive mental edge over Wilder.
     
  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I agree. I don't think Wilder sees the 7th round, but that doesn't mean he isn't sincere about wanting the fight or believing he can win.
     
  10. 6.5winmag

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    8th round tko for the gypsy
     
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  11. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm sure Wilder has a plan for the rematch. However, I never forget one simple truth: "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." I truly believe that a fighter with Wilder's fearsome reputation, as a one-shot KO artist, is never the same following a prolonged beatdown that ends without needing the judges' scorecards. While I applaud Breland for stopping the fight, I think he would've been better served to do so a round or two earlier. My point is that I think it is psychologically less damaging for a fighter to lose quickly and convincingly than it is for them to take a sustained beating.
    As for the fight. Despite Fury's penchant for partying and living it up, I believe he completely figured Wilder out after the first fight. As the better boxer, Fury's key to staying upright against Wilder is to beat him up from outside, throw a right cross, and reset. Meanwhile, if the right cross misses, he falls into a clinch with Wilder, where he lays his weight on those chicken legs. I'm afraid Malik Scott will not be enough for Wilder to reverse the outcome. That said, I expect any version of Fury to beat Wilder even easier this time around.
     
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  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I think Fury will box with him for a few more rounds, Wilder is not a technique boxer to say the least maybe C+, and Fury will not go for the KO until maybe the 9th round.

    I actually think they like each other so Fury will draw this out more so than the last fight and if he fails to KO Wilder; or worst yet catch that right and go down, I still see Fury winning on pints
     
  13. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Some people just can't except defeat. I feel Wilder blamed Breland for the loss because he believed as long as he's in the fight, his right hand could pull him through.