Sven Ottke award

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, for example maybe in Switzerland?
    Valuev for example gladly accepted to fight in Switzerland and a lot of other countries.

    While yes, Ottke did not had classic called fans friendly style. It was not DM or Maske. :(:(:(
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Andre Ward is basically a bootleg Ottke

    Look at the kind of company The Phantom kept

    Amateur

    Michael Moorer - WBO LHW champion, WBA, IBF, WBO HW champ

    Henry Maske - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist, European gold medalist x 3, long reigning IBF LHW champ

    Ariel Hernandez - 2 x Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist x 2 & 1 x silver

    Alexander Lebziak - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold & silver medalist, European gold medalist x 2, silver x 1, bronze x 2

    Chris Byrd - Olympic silver medalist, WBO & IBF HW champion

    Zsolt Erdei - world amateur gold medalist, Olympic bronze medalist, European gold medalist x 2 & silver x 1, long reigning WBO LHW champ, WBC CW champ

    Torsten May - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist

    Vassiliy Jirov - Olympic gold medalist, 2 x world amateur bronze medalist, IBF CW champion

    Juan Carlos Gomez - long reigning WBC CW champ, world junior champion as an amateur

    Antonio Tarver - world amateur gold medalist, Olympic bronze, WBC, IBF, WBA LHW champ

    Angel Espinosa - world amateur gold and silver medalist

    Sinan Samil Sam - world amateur gold and bronze medalist, European bronze and silver medalist, world junior gold medalist, European HW champion

    Andrey Kurniavka - world amateur gold and silver medalist, European bronze medalist

    Ramon Garbey - world amateur gold & bronze medalist

    Torsten Schmitz - world amateur silver medalist 2 x bronze, European silver medalist

    Egerton Marcus - Olympic silver medalist

    Thomas Ulrich - Olympic bronze medalist, world amateur bronze medalist, world junior silver medalist, European LHW champ

    Rostislav Zaulichnyy - world amateur bronze medalist, 2 x European bronze medalist, gold medalist at the world cup

    Chris Johnson - Olympic bronze medalist, world amateur bronze medalist

    Henryk Petrich - Olympic bronze medalist

    Rhoshii Wells - Olympic bronze medalist

    Jean-Paul Mendy - world amateur bronze medalist, 2 x European bronze

    Fought Moorer x 2
    Ariel Hernandez x 4
    Lebziak x 4
    Maske x 2 (think it was even more times than that)
    Tarver x 2
    Torsten May x 2
    Tortsen Schmitz x 2
    Garbey x 2
    Mendy x 2
    Chris Johnson x 3


    Unified champion, made 21 world title defences, retired undefeated and beat seven world champions. He didn't even turn pro till he was 29 and he won his first world title in his 13th fight

    Pro


    Brewer 35-6
    Mitchell 25-1-1
    Branco 40-4-2
    Reid 36-3-1
    Glen Johnson 36-3
    Mundine 10-0
    Krajnc 29-2
    Starie 33-3
    James Butler 18-1
    Larsen 43-1
    Markussen 27-0
    Tate 36-5


    Ottke's trainer Ulli Wegner has trained among others

    Punchers like


    Arthur Abraham
    Alexander Frenkel
    Robert Helenius
    Marco Huck
    Yoan Pablo Hernandez
    Mads Larsen

    BEST DEFENSE
    Sven Ottke: He had the most important asset to be not just a good- but a world-class operator inside the ring — anticipation. He knew where to move to not to get hit. That’s why he got named “Phantom.”

    BEST CHIN
    Ottke: That’s hard to say. I always trained and still train my boxers to hit and not to get hit. To answer this question in another way — I was worried the least when Sven Ottke stepped into the ring.

    FASTEST HANDS
    Ottke:
    Ottke is naturally gifted.

    FASTEST FEET
    Ottke:
    One of the most evasive fighters I have ever seen.

    SMARTEST
    Ottke:
    Ottke was the smartest to effectively implement tactics inside the ring. Abraham is clever analyzing strengths and weaknesses of his opponent inside the ring. The problem is that he is not always focused and doesn’t bother about every foe. That’s when he gets problems. He tends to underestimate opponents.

    And last but by no means least

    BEST PUNCHER
    Ottke: You might laugh about my next statement but the truth is that Sven Ottke was the hardest puncher. The problem was that due to his style and his ring intelligence, he couldn’t or didn’t want to open up to showcase it. You could see it once, when he had to go for broke versus (Anthony) Mundine. Otherwise, Arthur Abraham has one hell of a punch


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  3. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Great argument mate.
     
  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    what's obvious is obvious, I dont feel like to waste my time. You are wrong. Period. You want arguments? not my problem. Learn the sport.
     
  5. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    What is obvious in regards to what I said?
     
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  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    In regards to that it's not true that ottke is underrated. He's an incredibly limited fighter who actually fought no one.

    You want to say that he's underrated blahblahblah. OK, do it, but dont pretend people to agree with that, because that's stupid.
     
  7. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Well there you.
    Who didnt he fight who he could realistically speaking outside of Calzaghe?
     
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  8. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    as If I were a calzaghe's fan, I cant stand calzhage. But anyway roy jones is worth the whole ottke's resume 20 times at least.

    But anyway, again, I dont care. I like ottke, as I said. It's only that you are wrong. You, obviously, think that you are not. So, nothing else to add.

    Have a good night.
     
  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Go to the hell with your Roid :D and his resume in US.
     
  10. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Why am I wrong?
     
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For him only mexican and US boxers are good and had fought vs someone.
    Trolling tactics.
     
  12. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ottke lost to Byron Mitchell and Robin Reid and had had close fights with Brewer.
    He was a world level fight and good enough to pick up a title but was beaten by fighters who were far from great (no shame losing to Reid mind).

    Not sure what relevance the American hype argument has when applied to Ottke when Mitchell exposed his true level.
     
  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Micthell had beat Ottke in pros?

    For business better if punched in the face for a living are guys from Mexico, US or U.K.
    More fanbase with dumbasses etc.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    CHJ posted??? :yikes:

    (you newbies wouldn't understand, this guy's an esb legend)
     
  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Should be lad with good brains if he had posted something like I had posted.