How do you feel when a fighter dies in the ring or after a fight? I mean, deaths happen all the time in boxing, right? After a while, you kind of become desensitized to it.
If he dies, he dies...... Seriously though it’s the nature of the beast, there is nothing I can think of off the top of my head which could be done to make it more safe without affecting the sport.
I don't like it... In the end, boxing is still some kind of sport, so it makes me sad when somebody dies in the ring, just as it makes me sad when somebody dies from heart attack while playing soccer..
Well, sometimes this happens. I never was so deeply interested in this one and still I do know some cases when yeah, he had died. Looks that 2 in am boxing and 1 in am KB U.K, then some am TKD not in europe. Delivery to ICU from am fight or sparring I had saw in person.
It's amazing how childish can be the people nowadays. Big kiddos everywhere. People die. All the time. There are carpenters who die at work, or get mutilated. There are electicians who die at work. There are building builders who die. EVERY DAY, EVERYWHERE. I remember my first day of work after finishing my studies. It was an internship. A guy had died there the day before I started. He was sawed by the middle of his body. Can you imagine that? Sawed, with a saw I mean (not a normal saw actually, but a huge pression stream of watter mixed with sand, used to polish the steel). Man, PEOPLE FREAKING DIE. We all are going to die. No exceptions. I'm so tired of 40 years old men acting as 10 years old kiddos. Death is part of life. It's a pity they died? sure. Now, try not to be you the following one. The important thing is your life, not your death. You are going to die 100% sure, believe me. That's not important, that's guaranteed. What's important is how you live. (a hint, locked down in your ****ing home scared of a virus is a disgusting way of living). Accidents at work happen all the time. It's a disgrace, it's really sad. And we need to do as much as we can do to avoid them. But not only in boxing, but in every job.
I don't like it at all. It's something that will always be there, most fighters don't want to see it happen (they know how easily it could be them) and it's something that has to be treated with respect. Sad but true l, unfortunately. Having said that, at pro level at least it does seem to be a rarer occurrence than it once was - there's more focus on fighters welfare than back in the 80's and before, to be sure. One thing I would really like to see, though, is any fighter wishing death upon opponents receiving heavy fines and/or lengthy bans - there's absolutely no place for wanting to actually kill opponents in the ring, nor for claiming to (even if you don't really mean it).
There are... But in every field of life, efforts are made to mitigate and/or minimize the risks - workers aren't regarded as disposable as they once were and employers who don't take sufficient care are liable for their negligence. Yes, death is one of the few undeniable facts of life, but that doesn't mean it should ever be trivialized.
Well, in pro ranks there is thing like tickets price and sales here + broadcasting too. Injuries might happen of course and outcome there might be different. When you step in the ring even in " ***** " am ranks you should know about this with a glance and there yeah, might happen that you will end in coffin. There are a lot of proofs for this way of thinking. Might happen and had happened not with 1 or 2 or 3 lads there. This is a bit part of meaning from phrase " to serve the holy ring ". If every thing here had been done according to rules from A till Z then if he dies, he dies and end of discussion here. This is meaning of phrase " to serve the holy ring " regards to risk.
The ones who trivialize it are the ones who try to reduce it to zero. Because that's impossible. We ALL are going to die, NO EXCEPTIONS. I repeat. A pro boxer is another worker, and measures are taken so that they dont suffer an accident and die while working. Exactly as any other job. And that's exactly how it has to be. I dont want any 40 years old supposed man but with the maturity of a 10 years old kid to tell here "oh, high risk sport. oh, so sad. oh oh" as if death were something horrible that is not suppose to happen and that only happens in the ring. Oh, my ass! In my eyes there is not difference between the worker who died working in the ring and the workder who died falling from a platform. And death IS supposed to happen, and death will happen whether you know how to deal with it or not, so you better learn how to do it, or your life will be a freaking ****. A guy who studied in my college fell in a deposit full of concentrated acid trying to throw a wire from one point to another. Can you imagine that? Death happens. I'm so tired of freking kids with grey hair and peter pans unable to deal with life and, hence, with death. ******s like the professor, willing to force anyone to do anything in his attempt to live forever. I'm so tired of idiots, and it seems they are everywhere.
No sane person truly believes you can reduce death to zero, it's a fundamental fact of life that we all die. That's very different from saying that we shouldn't be looking to minimize avoidable deaths - you can never make it impossible for boxers to die in the ring, but you sure as hell won't help keep the numbers down by being blasé about it
You would be surprised if you knew the amount of people that in their inside they want it to be reduced to zero. Look at all the covid idiots, willing to live forever, even if having to pay the toll of living forever locked in their flats and touching no one ever again. More people than you can imagine think that they will live forever, that's why I complain. EDIT: This conversacion is pure fiction, but I bet you can see it everyday countless times all around this decadent and disgusting europe. - Oh, that man in my building has died! god! damn you! you always take the bests!! damn! damn! you!! it's so hard, so unfair. - really, that's sad, what happened, how old was he?. - he was 98 years old. - man, YOU ARE IDIOT !.
When it happens to a fighter, you might feel sad for a moment, but thats it, we dont give a flying ****, when some stranger dies or suffers. Relatives suffer from loss or when a fighter becomes disabled. Look at Abdusalamov, his wife is taking care of him since 8 years, he is getting better, can speak a bit and hold the cup, but he never will be the same since the accident.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not sad when a fighter dies. It's just that, deaths are pretty common in boxing. Fighters know the risks when they get in the ring.
Of course and still there if are talks to claim that this is lesser risk than alpinism etc there is . I might remember more very bad stuff from am fights not pro fights. The same outcome like guy was not down, lost on points, fight looked far lesser impressive than Subriel vs Dadashev and still lad had died, coffin does not cares am or pro. 1 kick in ams= coffin too had happened. This is risk here, like in other very high risk sports. No one here should pretend that boxing is low risk sport. I knew gentleman who had retired from competitions when he was approx 25/26 despite he was eliglible to compete in Games. He turned into coaching/ training job and still had been respected but there it is what it is. If you are old times ammy with >200 fights here when you are just 25/26 y.o it is what this is. A lot of other examples too. It is walk in the park. Yeah, I partially agree, he had competed with old times am gloves.
