Prime Sonny Liston vs 90s HWs

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  1. IHaveAscreenName804

    IHaveAscreenName804 Member banned Full Member

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    And Holyfield was past his prime. When Liston got beat or struggled against the guys I named he was still in his prime. On that note you are also ignored. My ignored list is becoming extremely long.
     
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    Lol Liston beats any version of Foreman because Liston beat who? 180 pound Floyd Patterson or slow as a snail Cleveland Williams? Liston looked impressive fighting guys who were smaller than him. Foreman was bigger than Liston and far more skilled. Which is why Foreman could fight until he was pushing 50 and still getting wins against good fighters like 6'5 230 pound Lou Savarese and 6'3 230 pound Shannon Briggs. Liston was getting knocked out by 190 pound Leotis Martin.

    Any version of Foreman would destroy Liston. Hell any version of Shannon Briggs and Lou Savarese would beat any version of Liston.
     
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wouldn’t say Tyson was more accurate. Liston had a better jab way better stamina. Maybe younger Tyson gets him but even then not sure I’d bet against. Tyson wasn’t so great against people with Listons qualities
     
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    Late 1990s Foreman couldn't even destroy Crawford Grimsley, but he destroys Liston, hmmmm
     
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    i'm gonna assume this is on their best nights? because some of these guys were pretty inconsistent.

    vs Michael Moorer (Liston KO)
    vs Tommy Morrison (Liston KO)
    vs Lennox Lewis (Lewis UD or KO)
    vs Evander Holyfield (Holyfield MD in a great fight)
    vs Riddick Bowe (Bowe UD also a good fight)
    vs Ray Mercer (Liston somehow)
    vs Oliver McCall (Liston SD in a war)
    vs David Tua (Liston UD)
    vs Ike Ibeabuchi (no idea how good Ike really was)
    vs Oleg Maskaev (eh only seen a few of his fights)
    vs Hasim Rahman (Liston KO)
     
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    This post is absolutely aids
     
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    Liston imo was also more skilled, more well-rounded, a better boxer and more powerful, and has a big edge in adaptability.

    Chins were about even.

    Hand speed, foot speed, and body attack go to Tyson.

    Durability, and cut resistance were about even.

    I'd favor Liston over '88 Tyson but have no problems with anyone picking Tyson. 90s Tyson would have a considerably lesser chance.
     
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  8. mr. magoo

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    I think he establishes a strong presence as a contender. He might even grab a world title at certain points of the decade and depending who his opponent is. I don’t see him dominating or being the best, but again he’d be a top player.
     
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    Foreman was not more skilled than Liston, it's the other way around.
    Liston was around 50 and way past his prime when Martin beat him. Plus he was dominating the match until he gassed out.
     
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    Liston would ko Joshua and Wilder. Even though I don't care much for Fury's style, I think he'd actually do not terribly against him. It's just the slippery way he fights, Liston might get frustrated. The only thing is, if Liston floors him Fury is ****ed; Liston was a far better finisher than Wilder ever dreamed of being.
     
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    You realise people where juicing even in his era Lol.
     
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    Were they? I honestly don't know, I thought all that blew up with Schwarzenegger, Ferrigno et al in the 70s.
     
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    He beats Moorer, Morrison, Maskayev and Rahman all by KO. Likely decisions Tua, Mercer, Ibeabuchi, and McCall in entertaining fights, but I don't think he's ever really in trouble against those guys. The 90s version of Tyson might be competitive, but I think Liston beats him possibly by stoppage. The styles favour Sonny and I think Mike would have to be at his 80s best to have a serious chance of winning. I like him against Bowe as well. If it's an on form Bowe, it would be a great fight and Bowe might be able to win, but I think he just takes too much punishment to bode well against a puncher like Liston. Holyfield and Lewis are pick em's for me that could go either way. So all in all, he does quite well and establishes himself as among the best of the era.
     
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    He loses to
    Lewis
    Holyfield
    Bowe

    50/50
    Tyson

    He should beat the rest.

    My guess is he picks up a belt but does not hold it very long….kinda like real life