Bob Arum: Eddie Hearn got greedy, screwed everything up.

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  1. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why not?

    And as has been said a billion times Eddie Hearn does not and can not sabotage a fight AJ wants. Are you really saying if AJ wanted the Fury fight that Eddie Hearn would do his best not to make it happen due to it being on Sky box office resulting in AJ losing out on £50 mil? AJ wouldn't put up with that and he would be leaving matchroom ASAP.

    The fight not being on DAZN wasn't an issue. If anything it was better for matchroom as the ppv revenue generated would have been better for AJ as well as matchroom's bottom line.

    Not forgetting matchrooms deal with DAZN has nothing to do with AJ. AJ could still extend his matchroom deal as well as his Sky TV deal. Eddie Hearn may prefer it if AJ signed with DAZN but he certainly won't be crying if AJ stayed with Sky and matchroom still get there slice of the PPV pie.
     
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  2. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with this argument from Arum is he is saying the arbitration could have resulted in damages being awarded to Wilder. What Arum can't do is say that it would have been a guarantee that the arbitration result wouldn't have been exactly the same.

    To claim Hearn got greedy when Arum and Fury were more than happy to take all that extra money 'greedy' Hearn got for them is simply ridiculous.

    Eddie Hearns job is to get the best deal possible for all parties. He delivered on his end.

    Lets not forget Arum was numerous times telling the media the deal wouldn't get done and was questioning if Hearns friends in Saudi were going to front the money during a global pandemic.

    He kept referring to his own experience when trying to make a fight in Dubai and him not finding the money.
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Pretty obvious why not....

    Dust off your thinking cap and put it to some use.

    'Yeah I'll quit Sky and take all my business over to you, but before I do let me just give them a share of the biggest, most lucrative fight in decades. Good with you?'

    And what happens in the future is not really relevant. AJ may or may not go with DAZN/Matchroom, go alone and sign with Sky etc. Hearn can influence but not control that. But he did have more control over AJ's next fight, when it takes place and with whom...
     
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  4. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again what your proposing is Eddie Hearn would screw AJ out of his head most lucrative payday when the consequences could be AJ jumping ship from matchroom.

    Eddie Hearn works for AJ not the other way round.

    AJ could have told Hearn months ago he wants Usyk next and not Fury and there is not a thing Hearn could do about it as AJ chooses his opponents not Hearn.

    I don't know what you think of AJ but the idea that any fighter let alone one who doesn't need any promoter and could go it alone would stand by and let Hearn sabotage a payday such as £50 mil is ridiculous.

    AJ's response to the fight falling through was one that believes the fight was made and Hearn did all he could to make it happen.

    Now AJ will be fighting for significantly less money vs an opponent that many believe he could lose too so the Fury payday could be lost but AJ has no issue with this? C'mon this is just crazy talk.

    All we know for a fact is Hearn got a deal that all parties were happy with and the fight didn't happen because of issues on the Fury side. He came through on his side and Arum and Fury were more than satisfied.

    What happens after that is out of hearns control.
     
  5. DoubleJab666

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    We don't know 'Hearn got a deal that all parties were happy with'. What we do know is he said he had a deal in place and, on the basis of what he said, both parties were happy with what he proposed. Big difference. And also a big difference between having a deal in place and having a contract signed. The Wilder arbitration stopped everything in its tracks but that doesn't prove a contract would have been signed had that issue not arose. I suspect not but we simply don't know.

    Eddie Hearn does work for AJ, correct - but his loyalty is to Matchroom and its future not a fighter who will retire well before Hearn stops being a promoter. He's already spread his bets by taking Canelo under his wing via a flexible fight-by-fight arrangement, through which the fighter isn't tied to a network and is making a fortune. Seems to be working well. Pretty good business model for marketable fighters with very high profiles...
     
  6. OneShot

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    So you couldn't offer me someone who puts on better cards? And yes I am because I like Benn, Galahad & Buatsi and they're all taking a step up with those fights. Though that's one card of many, we could all play that game with any promoter.

    I never said Hearns were great, they are just better than the rest. Like I said, boxing is so far behind now, it's painful.
     
  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Okolie is under eddie, what kind of fight he might get for him as next?

    Looks that he today does not have scheduled fight for example like vs Makabu or Briedis.
    BTW, looks that appears that eddie was too coc ky in talks vs Briedis and now IBF had ordered his mandatory, I suspect that this will go till purse bids.
    I think that money hungry Briedis by 99% might agree with dual sided rematch clause if opponent had been Makabu or Okolie cos they both are title holders.
    Not one sided clause I think.
     
  8. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So now you talk about one fighter per card ? and even than which of those individual fights tops someone like Loma, Lopez, Tank, Charlo, Inoue, Just admit that he is not the best and move on.

    If you excited about this cards that we don't have to talk no more.

    Even PBC has better fights this summer...

    Arum is greedy old fart but he gave us TWO UNDISPUTED fights in less than 9 months.

    I don't like promoters and their greedy moves, I don't have to, but when good fights are happening I am going to say thank you.
     
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  9. OneShot

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    I didn't look at the full card for those. They won't have been completely put together yet. & Again you've not given me a single person with better cards. You've just given me a list of good boxers. Who will all fight on their own card with nothing else going on.

    Out of every promoter in the sport Hearn puts on the best cards. We aren't talking about individual fights here. We are talking about full cards.

    Until you can give me even one that matches him then you probably shouldn't reply.

    Even when you are talking about individual fights they are all a mess too if we're honest. The whole setup of the sport is a mess.

    Edit: Just looked at those cards and they're currently still better than most of what else is out there albeit pretty bland.