Best of the this Era???- ESPN

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  1. Sweet Pea

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    Sorry, no :deal .
     
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  2. The Italarican

    The Italarican Pretty Good Poster Full Member

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    I'm guessing he'll take one out he's never heard of. Bye, Mickey!
     
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  3. McGrain

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    :lol:

    It's like the ****ing most locked down top 10 i've ever seen.

    Ali is to high of course ;)
     
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  4. Hatesrats

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    It is what it is...:deal
    check the records book's.
     
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  5. PacDbest

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    Ali is in top 3. I'm not saying Pac is in the top 2. Pac has only JMM as his debatable wins. SRL has his with Hagler and Gifted with Hearns 2. PBF has his Castillo1, Ali has his controversial one which I believe with Jones.

    Sasakul, Ledwaba, MAB, EM & JMM have all Greater skills than Pac but no way they are Greater Than Pac. How about just count how many times all these skillful guys Kiss the Canvas against Pac?? Maybe that's a better gauge!!!
     
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  6. McGrain

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    The bottom line for the purposes of this argument would be:

    You want Jones to rank above Whitaker because Whitaker was robbed by judges?

    Seems a little unsatisying that, no?
     
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  7. criollo

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    im starting to believe pacd'znutz only knows one fighter in boxing!
     
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  8. Sweet Pea

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    Even in the record books he holds a win over Ramirez, and I couldn't give a **** less about them. If you do, that's your prerogative, not mine. If someone gets robbed, I'm not counting it as a loss. I call it as I see it, simple as that.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    No, he's really not. He's #11 on my perfectly reasonable list, #5 on Sweet Pea's list. I think anything from 8-15 is reasonable.

    Sure, but that the only other peak great he has tangled with. That's not a coincidence. I think Marquez has proved himself the better of these two fighters over 24 rounds. You want to put Marquez at #6 and Pac at #7?
     
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  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Not at all.
    IMO Pernell was a better talent than Jones Jr.
    (Just not very exciting a fighter to watch)

    Plenty of fighter's have been robbed by judges, Only Pea is one that seem's to get credit for his defeat's? Maybe he didn't do enough?

    Arguably his best performace was the Chavez fight...
    according to HBO's Jim Lampley.
     
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  11. PacDbest

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    Where the hell you get your top 10?? I have seen ESPNs, The Rings etc and yours are way different than those legit sources. AlMost has SRL on it. This is the 1st time I don't see SRL. I think youre so Biased with the Old era. The era where Boxing is Limited in exposure, where there's still racism, where the Asian is still not part of it and only limited to US and European fighters. Give me a legit source of top 10.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    This top ten is better than most "legitimately sourced" top 10's that I have seen. It is excellent.

    Engage with it or retract.

    Duran fought in the 2000's, so old school bias doesn't really hold much water.
     
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  13. KO Boxing

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    Nice try, but just didn't quite get there.

    I do agree with roach that a win over Jones certainly does not make cal the best of this generation. Outside of that, blah blah blah.
     
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  14. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    PacDbest, once you realise that this whole top 10 bull**** is all a matter of opinion then you will sleep better at night.

    No one is correct and no one is wrong.
     
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  15. Sweet Pea

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    I gave you my top 10 like you asked, I didn't copy and paste from a source, as that would not be my top 10, nor would it be a top 10 I agree with. ESPN's top 50 was about the biggest joke I've ever seen, and most would agree on that. I don't give a **** if it's a known source, that doesn't mean ****. We've discussed this before. The fact that a fighter is lesser known doesn't mean he wasn't as good. Leonard ranks #12 on my list for your info, just missing the cut. Everyone on my list is more than justified, now tell me which one Pac ranks above.
     
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