Will anyone miss deontay? He seems to be quiet right now...

Wilder's mental collapse is a textbook example of what happens when somebody of insufficient intelligence surrounded by courtiers and cucks blowing smoke and fanning their ego is hit by crushing reality. The only option is denial, delusion and a set of na na na not listening headphones.

 

Absolutely, mate.

Someone who will take on the elite in their division and won't make excuses if they lose.

 

I don't hate the man in any meaningful sense of the word.

Why would I?

I simply don't like the man.

It's the public face I don't like, be it the immature posturing, the lame excuses, the ducking, the padded record.

The fact he took up boxing to support his child is incidental; plus, going out into the world and taking risks is what a man does to look after his family.

There's nothing inherently unique about that.

Also, for all his faults (and there were many), Tyson never made the kind of excuses Wilder makes.

Who has Wilder fought that could considered top 5?

Ortiz?

Do we think his elite?

Breazeale?

Are we suggesting he is a top 5 heavyweight?

At least Tyson took on men like Lewis, Ruddock, Douglas, Holmes, Golotha, and Holyfield (all of whom are miles ahead of anyone Wilder has fought) - and what's more Tyson actually had real ability, with great movement and punch selection.

I just feel like the heavyweight division deserves a better class of champion than Deontay Wilder, both in and out of the ring.

 

Mike, you are forgiven.

Arise, my son, for you are repentant...you may now walk tall with your head held high.

Yes, I forgive you...great, aren't I?

 

Perhaps, he does think Wilder is planning on retiring to Bolivia.

 

He brings excitement simply because he hits so ridiculously hard.

He could be many rounds down and then pull a hellacious shot from nowhere to end matters... as we seen with Ortiz and nearly with Fury in the first fight. Or he could simply go out and end the fight in no time at all, just ask Breazele.

However........ since the loss to Fury he has made himself look a complete and utter clown. Excuse after excuse after excuse. So I hope he gets flattened again next month.

 

Does he actually hit "ridiculously hard"?

I mean, if I go around fighting frail 90 year old men and brutally knock them out does that mean I'm some lethal puncher?

How many durable, genuinely world level opponents has Wilder actually knocked out?

I hate to break it to people, but the absolute rubbish I've heard about Fury being "unconscious" and "out cold" in the first fight is just that...provably untrue.

Does someone bashed into unconscious by a "devastating" puncher, who then immediately regains consciousness with no after effects, qualify in that situation?

To me, no, that's not how it works.

Within a few seconds Fury's eyes were open, he was aware of his surroundings, he got up with no issues, and boxed the remainder of the round with zero after effects.

If Wilder was this awesome puncher Fury would have been out of it, unconscious, gone, goodnight it's over...but, he wasn't.

At the very least he would have been unsteady on his feet for a while, slightly disorientated...but there was nothing like that.

I mean, if Fury were out cold he wouldn't have moved at all for the 10 second count - and had he really been knocked out the fight would have likely been stopped before a 10 count anyway.

Instead, Fury was on his feet for the rest of round, suffered no concussion, no slurred speech or memory loss.

In other words, he wasn't hurt.

Now, let's give Wilder some credit - he still put a much bigger man on his backside and very nearly pulled off a famous victory.

But, at that level, in any sport, it is fine margins which separate the very best from the rest.

Had Wilder spent the last 5 or 6 years as WBC champion taking on, and knocking out in brutal fashion, all of the top ranked opposition in the heavyweight division - people like AJ, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, maybe a Povetkin, or even Klitchko - then absolutely he'd have earned that reputation.

But, he didn't.

He fought bums, and divers, and set ups, and men he assumed were washed up and finished.

Consequently, he hasn't earned this reputation in my eyes...and that's all it is, my opinion.

 

Hmm more like a special kind of ignorance...As for your facts... they don't really add up.

 

He's become an afterthought.

 

I’d argue that it’s the opposite. If Wilder wins, it locks the heavyweight division into a stalemate where other top fights can’t be made until they all go past their prime.

 

IMHO it'd be a resumption of the WBC hostage-belt situation - only bums need apply and mandatories will be carefully managed to avoid any dangerous fighters (Dillian will be frozen out again, etc).

 

I guess you don't rate Rocky Marciano as a puncher either then?

 

That post was so righteous it needs dancers and a soundtrack.

I will say Wilder is an exciting fighter to watch though. Sometimes a good can crushing is exactly what the doctor ordered.