I just spent 4 HOURS watchin GGG - CANELO 2 at 0.25 speed, TOTAL punch stats + unique punch scoring.

Keep telling yourself that, but in the meantime address my responses to Q, if you dare. I put together some important snapshots that should help you and Q see some of these punches.

After studying this round, one thing that stands out to me and something that we can all agree on is how bad the camera angles were in this round. It's amazing that in such an important historical match, in such a critical round, these are apparently the only camera angles that we can view this action. A lot of the punches are hidden due to bad camera angles, but I've tried to pinpoint the best frames that are available to show what happened.

 

I've read both your comments and you're trying to spin it again...absolute nonsense, lies, exaggerations, speculation etc. STILL holding onto something even though proved otherwise. I've explained it to you and you just can't accept it and concede to any degree. What I've said is perfectly clear and I think most on this forum wouldn't agree with that blatant horse trash you just wrote. You're lying through your teeth to save face.. You keep trying to get the last word in as you've achieved something. I'm not gonna respond now because you're beyond deluded and any idea of objectivity

 

Yeah and it's really a shame because HBO for some reason switched to close-up behind the back shots of Canelo at critical points of the round, and as much as we try to argue what happened, the reality is neither me you or Q can be sure how well a good amount of these punches landed due to the camera angles. So there is definitely an inconclusive aspect to many punches in this round due to bad camera angles that hide what happened.

I wonder if we emailed HBO or DAZN (who bought the rights to HBO footage) if they have somewhere buried in their production trucks better camera angles of this match and this round. I really would like to see this round from different camera angles so we can let the footage tell us who's right and who's wrong on many of these debates, instead of us having to do guess work to imagine how punches might have landed that are hidden from our view. I just find it incredibly frustrating that for a match this important so many of the main punches landed (that, lets face it, really do determine who should win the round) are not even visible to the naked eye due to bad camera angles.

I think more than anything else, this leaves a cloud over this round that many punches remain inconclsuive. Now you can argue that GGG won the round, I could argue that Canelo won this round, the punch stats had both fighters landing the same number of punches, 18 punches. It was a very close and debatable round.

You have yet to address my correctons to your punch summary. You missed a lot of punches landed by Canelo which I added and time stamped. It would be good of you to say "yup I missed those" but you didn't. I know it's hard to admit you missed something or you're wrong about a punch, but I'm not here to beat you over the head with it. I'm just looking for you to acknowledge some of the punches you missed and take another look at some of the jabs you scored for GGG that were actually blocked. And I'll pledge to do the same on any punches that I've scored that you disagree with.

I could make this same accusation about you. You ignored some of Canelo's punches, you scored GGG jabs that were blocked, etc. We can both take this stance, the only way to meet in the middle and try to come to some kind of consensus on what landed is to have the willingness to admit when you're wrong. What this exercise showed though is how your scoring system is heavily affected by your interpretation of punches. And if you're not willing to respond to corrections then you're not willing to support your own arguments your own decisions that you made as to what you identified as a landed punch and what you ignored.

 

I've led you to the water hole, but you're not drinking. The screenshot makes it very clear where GGG's glove was. No one in their right mind can look at that screenshot and conclude that GGG blocked or parried the punch. It was a clean landed jab, the full brunt of the shot was absorbed by GGG's forehead, it snapped GGG's head back. There's no way for you to spin this one. The screenshot shows the right glove out of position and the jab landing cleanly, you're in denial. You're trying to save face arguing that the punch "may have been parried" when you can plainly see G's right glove was out of position guarding the mouth area to the right of his head while the jab landed clean to the forehead.

 

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Reminder : Quina74 claimed this jab was a "light tap" and "may have been parried":

https://i.imgur.com/HckQMIJ.jpg

The GGG defense force was out in full effect here. Trying so hard to ignore Canelo punches, to give GGG credit for landed jabs that were blocked. And in I come to blow this myth apart. Q got really bent out of shape over it, he really flipped out on me. Such an emo kid that Q is. Smithy kept it cool but has not been willing to really engage or get into the nitty gritty. Surely you wouldn't call that jab parried BCS8.

 

Golovkin clearly landed the more spit-spraying, neck twisting and sweat-spattering blows after he went super saiyan. Canelo wasn't able to summon enough mana for his next evolution and that's why he lost. It's all about going over 9000.

 

LOL how about you focus on one punch at a time, rather than making sweeping generalizations. The whole point of doing a punch summary with time stamps is so we can look at one punch at a time and credit each punch accordingly. Lets focus on the jab at 1:10 in Round 11 of the rematch :

What do you see :

https://i.imgur.com/HckQMIJ.jpg

"May have been parried" or "landed clean"?

 

I think Golovkin's punches were twin raging volcanoes of destruction! Even the slightest scratch or cuff had a big effect on Canelo! Meanwhile Canelo's attack was analogous to slapping a skyscraper with a handful of wet noodles.

 

You absolutely suck the entertainment out of boxing with such scrutiny

 

Shadow's only regret in life is that there aren't more frames in video for him to agonize over.

 

Watch Brook vs The Tomato Can Devourer at max speed to relieve yourself.

 

The frame rate is rather low, but we do the best with what we got. There's still more than enough frames to expose GGG crybaby clowns like yourself.