At their best I think Brook wins but narrowly. Now Brook is much more diminished so Thurman will take it now.
He is not wasted talent just found his level/ceiling. You could argue facing Lil G then EJ was suicidal for his career. It’s one thing moving up in weight to face the feared destructive Lil G/GGG then to come back and a face an even better fighter more skilled in the Truth Erroll Spence Jr.
I disagree, after the Porter fight he should have based himself in the US and be more dedicated. He wasnt and didnt really live the life. Also his step dad seemed to have too much influence over his career and they seemed to always want home advantage despite all the money been in America. He was then sold down the river for Matchroom to fill contractual obligations with a tv network and never recovered. Killed himself to make 147 again and the rest is history.
Thurman had a short spell where he was really really good. Around the Garcia and Porter wins but after that he's not done much and he was a hugely over rated puncher. As soon as he stepped up to World Class the KO's totally stopped. I think Brooks power, strength and timing would have caused Thurman plenty of problems. Brook has probably the most mismanaged career out of his generation of fighters and should have got a few more big fights and titles. He should have been in against Garcia, Thurman, was it Diaz who had the WBO??? I would have thrown the kitchen sink at that - Brook would have won and been a unified champ setting up further paydays down the line. Maybe ever enter into the Pac match stakes. . 2015-2016 were Brooks years to really make a name of himself. Instead he fought poor fighters. Then the GGG disaster. He had one last hurrah in his performance V Spence and his career has basically been over from then - he knows it as well just look at his reaction when he stopped Rabchenko screaming "i'm back while looking totally shocked". Still prime for prime I think i'd lean towards Brook - A shame that he only had 1 big victory in the ring.
Well he did make very good money with Matchroom in fact fortunes in the Lil G and Spence fights also made money against Crawford but sure he paid the price. Not sure about him not living the life. Nothing wrong with a Dad looking out for his son as many do. He probably was not comfortable living in the USA.
A prime Brook would have given Crawford a damn good fight - and we even saw flashes of his jab for a round or two when they fought which would have been a huge factor had he not been so badly faded - but Brook is far from prime, he's cooked. Thurman would likely stop him now. But at their peaks, Brook would have handled Thurman.
100% agree but he also has to take some responsibility for not having the career his ability deserved. He lacked dedication for the first half of his career and traded on talent alone. Then there was that stabbing, and we'll never know the real story behind that but it put a big road block on his career just when things had finally taken off. He never hit his ceiling. Not even close....
Yeah he didnt live the life, heard many stories about Brooks as im from around that way. He didnt need to live in the US just based himself there for camps and fights, similar to Khan or Fury now. His stepdad had no issues chucking him in with GGG, not really looking out for him, just trying to maximise his cut.
As far as I am aware his training camps were in Sheffield which brought him success. Some fighters like Lloyd Honeyghan, Fury, Khan, Lennox Lewis etc have had their training camps in the USA others like Calzaghe, Hamed and Eubank preferred their camps more locally domestic. It’s the fighter preference and they can have great success either way where they choose to base their camps. The GGG fight was not his step father’s fault you could argue it was Hearn who offered it and Brook wanted it and he was paid a fortune. He never got the Khan fight so business wise as well this decision vindicated. I don’t know enough about his person life but I think we might be clutching at straws a bit here.