Riddick Bowe vs Andrew Golota 2. Why prime Riddick Bowe would have destroyed Golota

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Riddick was getting beat up in rounds 1 and 2 of this fight but he didn't look as coordinated as he did in the early 90s, and as we know he was already showing signs of brain damage by this point due to the Holyfield trillogy and likely the first Golota fight where he showed up very overweight and got punished for it. In their second fight he slimmed down to his prime fighting weight at 235 pounds although he still wasn't the same Bowe regardless

    I happened to slow down the footage of this fight and scored the fight myself. I counted every single punch landed

    Round 1 10-9 Golota clear round.

    Round 2 9-8 Golota. Due to Bowe getting knocked down heavily and the obvious headbutt from Golota. Utter domination. But Bowe survives the onslaught

    Round 3: 10-9 Bowe. This is where things get interesting. Bowe was actually having some success getting on the inside against Golota in spots and outlanded him overall.

    Round 4: 10-7 Bowe. Bowe actually outlands Golota before landing a big right hand that stuns Golota and Bowe lands a few punches when he's swinging on a hurt Golota aggressively before dropping him. Golota gets up and Bowe continues to outland him easily. They then exchange in the pocket and Golota throws a 2 punch combination to Bowes nuts but Bowe didn't seem that bothered at first. This was the beginning of the end. Golota was always a nutcase and it was clear he wanted out. Golota throws 2 more low blows when its slightly over 1 minute remaining and gets warned for it. Golotas face looks battered, and they exchange afterwards with Bowe still outlanding him. Golota ends up lowblowing Bowe for a 3rd time and throws an absolutely brutal 3 punch combination to his balls and puts him down. Bowe takes some time to try and recover and they exchange. The round ends

    And the rest is history. Bowe looked drained and slower from those constant lowblows in the rest of the rounds and got beat up and fouled. Bowe was ahead on my scorecard and judges as well before they happened. People do not realize how much a 1 nutshot can take out of you and how long it takes you to fully recover, let alone a combination from a 240 pound powerpunching world class boxer. Yes boxers wear cups but they dont nullify all of the pain. Also realize it may have been on Bowes mind that he could get lowblowed again which could make it even harder to concentrate.

    Bowe was boxing better and better as the early rounds went and he had succes when he got on the inside multiple times. It wasnt some one off thing. The momentum was shifting in his favor just as the commentator said. Had Golota not fouled him while he was getting beat up, Bowe likely would have beaten him convincingly and a peak Bowe would have handled Golota comfortably. Golota himself got robbed against John Ruiz and Chris Byrd and as a matter of fact he did better against Chris Byrd than Vitali did so he was a decent fighter.

    Conclusion:
    Claims that Bowe got exposed by Golota, claims that Bowe was a hypejob, or claims that Bowe couldn't fight people his own size are absurd.
     
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  2. ChrisJS

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    Honestly, this is in my top five heavyweight fights ever. Bowe lost the hunger to be great pretty much the moment he won the title. Years of abusing his body. There’s no doubt in his prime years he has a much easier time with Golota. He may have to go through some tough stuff because Bowe didn’t have the Lennox Lewis type power which could take Golota out.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe from the Coetzer fight and the first Holyfield fight would have outclassed Golota. possibly even the Bowe from the last Holyfield fight although that Bowe may have gotten dropped once or twice.

    Even THIS clearly slower and more uncoordinated version of Bowe was beating Golota until the low blows. Bowe is overrated but at his best he really was elite. Those Golota fights really had people questioning him. But after really studying the second bout i have no doubt in mind that he was going to win that fight convincingly had those low blows not occurred.
     
  4. Seamus

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    Bowe got exposed fully by Golota but the hints of his lacking temperament and in-ring and out-of-ring discipline were there in his fights with Coetzer, Holy, and even Tillery. Golota just finished the job. He never had a championship temperament, too willingly gave up his advantages of range and height, and just wasn't all the goods that were promised earlier in his career.
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He clearly wasn't commited to the sport as much as other champions past and present but at his best he was an elite level fighter. His lack of discipline was what got exposed when he showed up fat as hell for the first Golota fight and he got brutalized for it. but that doesn't mean he was a hypejob in his prime. In the second fight when he slimmed down, he weathered the storm in round 1 and 2, started to box well in round 3 and eventually started beating Golotas ass in round 4. He was likely going to win if Golota didn't continuously foul him, the amount of lowblows was absurd.

    And keep in mind that was a slower, sloppier version of Bowe.
     
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  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe was a great fighter who coulda been a top ten ATG but both didn't want it enough and had a piece of dung for a manager. At the time of beating Holy in the Fight of the Decade he could have smashed Lewis to pieces (not so much later), yet he let moron Newman talk him into throwing the belt away. All because Newman offered Lewis an insanely low purse for the fight (that NObody in their right mind would have taken).

    I heard that later, around the time Bowe fought Holy III, Lewis actually offered Bowe a tidy sum to fight him, Bowe was ready to go (he would have lost around that time I think) and Newman ruined it!

    I think Bowe, once he got rich, realized all he wanted was to just be heavyweight champ that one time, that the rest just wasn't a priority. He'd fight again, for money, but he never looked as good against Holy that first time.

    To me, the guy who beat Holy in the first fight could have whupped more than a couple of the top 10 ATGs. He had a great style, his main Achilles Heel though was a BAD one: he got hit too much.

    A horrible disappointment...it's pretty bad when a referee disparages your laziness in his bestselling book (Mills Lane).
     
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  7. slash

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    Bowe ate copius left hooks from Holyfield. Three fights worth. Take that for what you will.
     
  8. Bigcheese

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    Bowe looked washed but Golota was a pretty talented heavyweight who matches up good if you lack one punch power. He likely had more confidence before taking a real loss. Prime Bowe would have won, but still a competitive fight imo.
     
  9. BCS8

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    This. If Coetzer actually had had a punch I think Bowe would have been in a spot of trouble.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dont understand this logic. Are you saying Coetzer is pillowfisted ? He came to fight and showed some world class skill and he took massive shots from Bowe as well. Bowe was winning almost every round and Coetzer himself said Bowe was the best fighter he had ever faced. Im not sure he even took Coetzer seriously though

    His lack of discipline was definitely revealed though.
     
  11. BCS8

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    He's an average puncher at best. His chin was top shelf and it needed to be because you couldn't miss him.
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that logic applies, if he didn't have a solid chin he would've gotten KO'd ealier. Coetzer came to fight and showed some toughness and excellent and relentless infighting
     
  13. BCS8

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    Oh yeah, I like Coetzer don't get me wrong. It's just that for such a well conditioned guy he did not appear to hit very hard. Same thing against Foreman. I had Pierre outlanding Foreman for a while and frankly he may as well have thrown bits of popcorn at Big George. The one fight where he does exhibit decent power was against Du Plooy, but then again, Du Plooy was a well known glass cannon.

    Since we all like a slugfest here's that one:

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  14. Glass City Cobra

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    For the life of me I can't understand how Golota gets so much hype. He lost almost anytime he stepped up in class. Not only that, he's an incredibly poor sport and has more fouls in the 2 Bowe fights than some guys have in their entire careers.

    I completely agree the damage and long term effect of a nut shot cannot be underestimated. Let alone multiple nut shots every other round from flush combinations. Even 5 minutes may not be enough. It affects your legs and coordination and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Bowe was initially willing to go for a KO then mentally checked out concerned that he might get nailed in the nads again.

    That changed the entire flow of the fight and it's entirely possible that without the fouls Bowe stops him within 5 despite being out of shape and past his prime. Golota would have just been a minor footnote in heavyweight history without these disgusting performances.
     
  15. Cojimar 1946

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    The fact remains that Bowes resume is extremely thin. I don't see how beating Golota more convincingly helps him much in that regard.

    Also not sure Golota really qualifies as a quality guy Riddicks size I mean he managed to lose to Michael Grant
     
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