If De La Hoya won all his fights, is he the GOAT?

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  1. jmecor64

    jmecor64 New Member Full Member

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    This question always made me curious, what if Oscar De La Hoya went undefeated and won all of his fights, is he the best ever? The GOAT?

    Imagine his resume, have wins over:
    Pacquiao - prime
    Mayweather - prime
    Hopkins - prime
    Trinidad - prime
    Mosley (twice) - prime
    Chavez (twice) - past prime
    Whitaker - past prime
    Quartey - prime
    Sturm - prime
    Vargas - prime
    Camacho - prime

    Five of those fighters are like inside top 30 atg, and most of them in their best years. If Oscar would have done more during those clutch moments in his close loses, I think he goes undefeated.
     
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  2. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    probably......he never could beat the A rate fighters though
     
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  3. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    The only two he wanted no part of was vernon forrest and winky wright. Rightfully so though, both bad style match ups and low reward.
     
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  4. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    If he had beaten them all then he would certainly be the greatest P4P over Robinson and other nostalgia picks.
     
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  5. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is why he is NOT the GOAT because he lost in his major fights....
     
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    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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  7. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Without a doubt and the only person that would me mentioned above him is SRR. Knowing Oscar had he beaten Hopkins he woulda been financially worth the risk for RJJ to meet him at 168 at least..
     
  8. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    He lost almost all of most important fights of his career. GOAT might be too much but he could be all time top 10.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, but he'd be right up there.

    And Camacho was about ten years past his best for De La Hoya. He wasn't in anyway prime.
     
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  10. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BULL****.
     
  11. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Whos the A fighter he beat on the list?
    Vargas? Trinidad?
     
  12. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Lost legit to every A fighter on the list with exception to trinidad. Even then he gassed the last 4 rounds.
     
  13. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I’d say so, that’s a full house
     
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  14. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Camacho, Vargas, Chicanito Hernandez, were all victories over A-type fighters.

    Most people believe DLH beat Trinidad, and Mosley (in at least one of their fights) that's 2 more A-type fighters.

    So yeah, the notion that DLH never beat an A-type fighter is Bull****.
     
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  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    If Kenny Norton won all his fights, he had probably been the greatest HW of all time.
    And there are journeymen out there with namelists you wouldn't believe. They just lost to all of them.