Usyk looks jacked - Is he going for the KO?

Sound logic is only as good as the premises it's built on.

Building a logical argument on incorrect factual underpinnings and assumptions is like building a house on quicksand - it doesn't matter how well you build that house, it can't last long.

My assumptions could be wrong, I may have misjudged something... I'm human, I can live with that.
As long as my logic is sound and makes sense, I'm doing better than many.

 

So you agree that he quit, why argue all this time ?

THank you. Now I feel better

 

Because context matters, and how you apply that elsewhere matters.

**** me you're dense.

 

Ive been knocked out cold so I dont remember what happened after the bell rang to start round 3. The bell rang * next thing is a light in my eyes with doc leaning over me. Guy apparantly caught me with a good shot on the button
My dear old Dad said he thought I was dead went down like I was poleaxed laying there eyes wide open Scared him to death

 

thats where understanding the process, and all connected to the process, comes in. if you took a wrong turn, somewhere in a connected process, then your logic cant be sound. because that connected process is untrue. there is no working model where all your processes work in conjunction. one cog doesnt fit.
this goes to knowledge. eleanor roosevelt was quoted as saying "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.". different peoples perspectives are going to vary depending on the width their knowledge allows them to focus their perspective. the more pieces of the puzzle you can identify and understand, the clearer the whole image starts to become. and the easier it is to spot that one piece that is out of place.

 

But still, that is a fact, which is that I was saying in the first place. Just admit it and let it go.

When Somebody killed a guy, does not matter if it was a self defence or killing on purpose. Context maybe change the way people will look at him, but he still killed a guy.

why guys like you always has to say things like that ? Does it make you better ? Or you don't have enough patience to speak without using emotions like that ?

 

Christ, I played football on the concrete back when CTE was diagnosed as a mild mood swing. Seeing that you can empathize with Mr. AJ you know more than most that your brains remain scrambled for weeks after getting concussed. He never quit vs Andy....his big proud self decided to underestimate Andy even while recovering from a brain injury suffered during training camp. Not a bright move to say the least, and he lost his belt for it.

 

What you talking about fool lol!

 

What a ridiculous statement.

Yes, it does.

Morally and legally it matters - self defence is very different from a spur of the moment crime of passion and different again from a premeditated murder...
All this makes a huge difference to how you judge that person, how likely they are to do it again, how depraved they are.

Nuance matters, and this ain't even remotely nuanced.

When you seem to completely miss the point time after time after time there are only two options - you're either very lacking in the brains department or you're trolling.

I simply find it more charitable not to demean your motives first.

 

Just cause you look good on the speed bad doesn’t mean you have faster hands. I’ve seen slow fat guys look good on the speed bag. Usyk is gaining A LOT of weight and his style relies on speed, movement, and work rate. Don’t get your hopes up, AJ is gonna stop him

 

Reading through this people are reaching for unknown variables to be an advantage for Usyk.

A lot of the predictions seem to be more of what people want to happen rather than what is likely to happen.

Usyk probably outboxes Joshua until he gets clipped and stopped. Usyk will have to step into range just to score shots with his reach disadvantage. I can’t see him not getting clipped at some point. It won’t be like the Chisora fight where he actually had a reach advantage.

 

That does not change the fact that he killed a guy. You focus on morals, I focus on facts.

You trying to make AJ look good in the situation when he quit and had fear, but at the same time you agree with me of that subject. but with more colorful words

Why are you trying to make this about me ? when we where talking about fighters ?

 

Huh? Guys like me? Taking it personal?

Dude Intution dosen't seem to be a bright spot for you I guess. I have no personal investment in the result of the fight, I was merely pointing out how classless and unbecoming it is to call a fighter of AJ’s caliber and ability a heartless coward. It's not an intelligent description of him.

I gave you the opportunity to deliberate and respond and you react with telling me you get why I take this personal when I went out of my way to mention my neutrality and lack of overzealous fandom.

I appreciate the segmented quotes and the direct replies; however, I don't think we are on the same page with the understanding portion of my post. Simply put, you've bypassed the concussion suffered by AJ weeks earlier and the rematch proved he can bounce back from the mental and physiological trauma that's caused by absorbing your first defeat. How does this correlate to an absent heart, how is this associated with being spineless and unworthy of your respect?

I find myself saying this a lot but here it goes....no offense, I know I can sound a bit patronizing but I'm fascinated by how vastly different humans view impressionable events during our short existences on planet earth. It seems you're favoring the simplistic explanation of AJ’s flaws and failures rather than considering the complete and likely more complex ambiguous options.

Good talk bro.

 

If he's being genuine then I've found my muse for the next thesis due at that Behavioral Health & Ecom class.

 

Lol Canelo at 175... Best KOs at 155-160 was chinny 140lber Khan.. But all of sudden he KOs a Kovalev who put on a superb boxing clinic against hard punching cruiserweights (essentially.. They're fkn huge) in Yarde and Eleider...this KO comes out of nowhere after tippy tappy play fighting.. But we all know that Kovalev Canelo fight was highly suspect so this doesn't really count as an example.