When evaluating Floyd, and also Pac, in a p4p sense I think it's worth noting that they for large parts of their careers gave up 10-15 lbs to their opponents more as a rule than an exception. Well, Pac still does. He and Spence might be in the same weight class, but they're not the same size.
While there may be some asterisks attached to his biggest wins, I think the quality of opposition he faced tends to be a bit underrated. And, since I personally think he defeated everyone he faced that means he's a bit underrated by some hardcore fans. Tough for me to rate him any higher than 15-20 all time, but that's not a reflection against him so much as to illustrate how great the other guys above him really were.
Its kinda of hard to evaluate it HONESTLY. Part of the problem is of course Mayweathers personality. People want to hate him and discredit him. The other problem is he didn't seem to seek out the best for whatever reason. Mosley,JMM,PAC, De La Hoya those wins kinda are questionable to me as those fighters were past their best and yes I realize Mayweather was older too those wins just really don't do anything for me to enhance Mayweathers legacy. Was Mayweather talented? Of course he was. But like when I watch Pea outbox say Chavez to me I'm in awe by how slick Pea is and I don't ever get that with Mayweather except maybe the Corrales fight. So I think he is underrated but most of that is his fault.
Chavez was in another league to Corrales. Corrales was also weight-drained and had personal issues before the Mayweather bout. It was a good win for Mayweather, but not a great one.
He wasn’t weight drained. He continued at 130 after. He demolished Manfredy with the exact same court case looming.
You are utterly clueless as usual. "Boxing was his ultimate calling, but he was hugely troubled behind the scenes. 'Chico' became laced with managerial problems, business issues, drink-driving convictions and worst of all, an argument with his first wife Maria which escalated into a violent dispute. A possible jail sentence was looming. The biggest fight of his life was also approaching - a bitter grudge match with Floyd Mayweather, who had taunted him constantly about all of his personal problems. Diego was battling weight as well, trying to keep his tall frame boiled down at super-featherweight - and he admitted to me that before the Mayweather fight, he was only eating a grapefruit a day." - https://www.skysports.com/boxing/ne...-whose-eventful-life-was-tragically-cut-short
Ahhh yes Manfredy, that great boxer. That win says very little about Corrales's ability at 130lbs. The facts are that Corrales was weight drained before the Mayweather bout and wasn't that good to begin with really. But you will refuse to acknowledge this because you are Mayweather fanboy. "It turns out Corrales' weight problems were far more substantial than he and his camp had let on, and that he was also suffering from bronchitis. In addition, his estranged managers, Barrett Silver and Cameron Dunkin, have filed an injunction in Clark County District Court seeking their share of the fighter's purse, an act they took when Corrales' lawyer refused to have the purse put in an escrow account until the Nevada State Athletic Commission could arbitrate the dispute. "I felt so bad for him I had tears in my eyes during the fight," Dunkin said Wednesday. "He had nothing. He didn't have his strength and they didn't have any strategy. "What he had was some morons who talked him into doing this." Dunkin maintains Corrales should have bypassed fighting Mayweather until both were at 135 pounds."Well, (promoter) Bob Arum got his way," he said. "He wanted to put the fight together right away and the kid paid the price."The kid shouldn't have been fighting at 130 but Arum was forcing the fight with Floyd at that weight. "But Floyd was always going to be there for Diego and the right time to fight would have been at 135. Maybe Diego wouldn't have won, but it would have been a completely different fight at 135." Dunkin further believes Corrales, win or lose against Mayweather at 135, would still have been in line for fights later in his career at 147 pounds against Shane Mosley and maybe even Oscar De La Hoya. "Those are $4-5 million fights," Dunkin said, before adding another barb. "So much for five years of hard work," he said of his involvement with Corrales. The reality is that Corrales, while not moving back to Square 1, has been handed a substantial career setback. (He may encounter another one when his felony spousal abuse charges go to court in Sacramento next month.) "What I'd say Diego has to do is, first, take a rest and not let his weight get out of control," Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler said. "Then he needs to come back at 135 and take a couple of fights. Then we can get him a title fight." But Corrales' chief cornerman (and father-in-law), Ray Woods, told the Sacramento Bee that Corrales' weight had been up to 168 pounds before beginning training for the fight with Mayweather. He also said Corrales weighed 140 pounds -- and not the 133 he and his nutritionist were claiming -- as recently as a week prior to the fight. On top of that, Woods said Corrales was battling bronchitis. "To tell you the truth, I wasn't that shocked by what happened," Woods said of Corrales being overwhelmed by Mayweather. "I just feel Diego went into this thing overconfident from the beginning and didn't really put in all the hard work he normally does. Unfortunately, he believed what a lot of people were saying, that he was too big and strong for Mayweather." It was Woods who threw in the towel in the 10th round, ending the fight. "We didn't speak for a couple of hours," he added, Corrales having been perturbed at not being allowed to finish the fight even though he was decisively losing. The loss dropped Corrales to 33-1 and raised Mayweather to 35-0."
I was watching boxing back then, but you have a bright future as a researcher. Manfredy was a top 2 performance from Corrales until that point. Mayweather was special.
Are you going to admit you were wrong when you posted that Corrales wasn't weight drained? Or are you incapable of ever admitting you are wrong? Also, just because he might not have been weight drained for the Manfredy bout, does not mean he wasn't weight drained for the Mayweather bout. So you reasoning was flawed to begin with.
He didn’t retire to avoid Manny. Floyd retired to make huge, easy money in the WWE, whilst everybody else at WW fought each other. When he came back, he clearly avoided Manny. Roger had him spooked.
I agree but Mayweathers performance was flawless in that fight. Like look at Manfredy win- great win but honestly what top tier fighter did Angel ever beat afterwards?
Corrales fought Mayweather three or four months after Manfredy and was fighting at 130 three years later. It's a convenient, horse**** excuse because Corrales was tall.
It was closer to 5 months actually. Also just because he may have made 130lbs fine years later doesn't mean he did things right before the Mayweather bout. But of course it was an excuse. Those involved are all lying. Corrales was a great boxer but Mayweather was unbeatable and is the best ever.
