One of the Greatest Slugfests of All Time: Kid Gavilan vs. Gil Turner

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not able to post the fight, although it is on youtube. I watched the color version.

    1. Turner is the main aggressor, stalking Gavilan, both trading good jabs. Gavilan clinched more than is typical of him, but one could see why with the vicious punches Turner was digging into Gavilan. The two fought a barbaric exchange at the end. The final punch to land, a right hand by Turner, stunned Gavilan I think. A whale of opener, the likes of which has rarely been seen. Turner.
    2. Overall, there was little change in their roles, although Gavilan became a shade more offensive, but the results were twice as murderous as the previous round. I would imagine the two set a record for the longest sustained exchange. Gavilan.
    3. Turner has success as his resumed role as the dominant aggressor, although Gavilan lands several excellent right hands on Turner. Turner.
    4. There is no let-up in this frenzied 4th round. Turner.
    5. Turner was as good at fighting on his backfoot as he was being the main aggressor, something he proved again and again in the many thrilling exchanges that took place. Gavilan.
    6. Initially a slower starter, but proved to be more of the same at the end, with Turner pinned to the ropes and both teeing off. Gavilan.
    7. Considerably slower than the preceding rounds, yet still a slam-bang round. Gavilan.
    8. Marks the beginning of a slightly more tactical phase of the fight, due in large part to Turner's tiring state. Gavilan seizes the advantage, scoring with jabs and several good left hooks. However, Turner picks up a second wind in the latter portion of the round, staging a rally reminiscent of the earlier rounds. Turner.
    9. Turner seeks to jab with Gavilan, who lands a number of good hooks from long range. Turner again receives a second wind, producing yet another rally late in the round. Even.
    10. This jabbing session was by far the tamest round of all, although the two still put together a lively exchange before the bell. Turner is losing steam--and fast. Gavilan.
    11. Turner come out, seemingly revitalized, but the success was short-lived. About halfway through the round, Gavilan caught Turner with a right overhand as Turner came in with blows to the body. The punch is somewhat difficult to see, but judging by Turner's appearance, it was the one that hurt him. In no time at all, a series of hooks by the Kid backed Turner up into the ropes, where Gavilan slammed fist after fist into Turner, with no intention of letting Turner go. Gavilan tired briefly from his own attack and Turner managed to fire back with several hard counterpunches, working his way off the ropes. But no sooner had he done so than a left uppercut caused his right knee to buckle. A killer right overhand sent Turner back to the ropes, although he quickly got out of there, only to stumble into the ropes on a different side of the ring. Turner, reeling and holding onto the ropes with his right arm, absorbed three or four destructive straight rights before the referee saves him from further punishment.


    Final score going into the 11th: 5-4-1 for Gavilan.

    Verdict: This has got to be one of the greatest fights of all time, there's not a bad round in there. This is one of my favorite fights. If people ever ask you what the greatest 6-rounders of all time, just watch the first 6 rounds. EVERYONE should see this bout, and make it a priority on their list. No true fan of boxing has excuse that would explain not watching it.
     
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  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I accidentally posted it on the general forum.
     
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  3. TheMikeLake

    TheMikeLake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Got a link, friend?
     
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  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of my very favorite fights. Epic stuff.
     
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  5. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Afraid not. There are two full length versions of the fight on youtube. One is black and white and in four parts. The other is colorized but the owner of the colorized version made it impossible for me to post the video on here, so it was unavailable. I have the fight myself though, so I could convert, upload, and post the link to the full length version of the fight, in black and white, and not in four parts.
     
  6. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Yeah, excellent fight Wiiliam. Here's my write up from a while back:

    Kid Gavilan v Gil Turner

    Good fight in which the young challenger really took it to the champ, showing great handspeed and combos before he was slowly worn down and properly battered for a well-timed (by 1950s standards) stoppage.

    Gavilan was very economical, almost to a fault, with his punch output, but he knew what he was doing and weathered the storm such that, even though I had Turner marginally ahead 5 rounds to 4 (1 even) going into the 11th, he looked to have turned things his way just as he got to the business end of the fight. A study in how to pace yourself in a 15 round championship fight.

    1 9-10
    2 9-10
    3 9-10
    4 10-9
    5 10-9 (close)
    6 9-10
    7 9-10 (close)
    8 10-9 (close)
    9 10-10
    10 10-9
    (95-96)
    11 Gavilan TKO Turner
     
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  7. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The rounds differed, but our scores are the same.
     
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  8. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Saw this one a year ago. Here is what I wrote:

    Round 1: Turner
    Round 2: Gavilan
    Round 3: Turner
    Round 4: Turner
    Round 5: Gavilan
    Round 6: Turner
    Round 7: Even
    Round 8: Turner
    Round 9: Even
    Round 10: Gavilan
    Round 11: Gavilan stops Turner

    Total (through 10 completed rounds): 5-3-2 Turner (actual scores were one score of 6-4 for Gavilan and two scores of 5-5 Even)

    This was a terrific fight with several wild exchanges during the 5th and 6th especially. With both heads of processed hair flying and both throwing flashy bolos, these two went at it good. Gavilan suddenly found a home for his sharp left hook in the 10th round and it was like a light bulb went off. He realized he couldn't miss with it, never let up with it and rattled Gil in the 10th and finished him in the 11th. Incidentally, I read after viewing it that the ref cited Turner for a low blow in the 5th. They had an odd way of dealing with deductions back then. They would simply take the round away from the offender and give it to the recipient of the foul. In this case I had Gavilan winning the 5th, so nothing else is done because he won the round anyway. Strange looking at it without a point deduction from the total but that is how it was done back then.
     
  9. Chuck1052

    Chuck1052 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kid Gavilan had plenty of boxing skill and smarts.

    - Chuck Johnston
     
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  10. Saintpat

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    Gil Turner was no slouch himself. Kind of a forgotten man but fought a ton of great fighters and beat his share of them … and a lot of his losses were very competitive.
     
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  11. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep. Turner was your quisessential Philly brawler.
     
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