Bivol will have 6 weeks to prepare for Canelo

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  1. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol is much better opponent than Caleb Plant. Much better resume. Plant has fought an utter and absolute garbage lineup since Uzcatequi. I have no doubt that Bivol could come down to 168 and handle Plant fairly easily.

    It's also a much more entertaining fight against Canelo as he'll meet him in the center of the ring.

    Really hope this fight isn't cheapened at 168 with a five week camp for Bivol.

    I wouldn't mind 168lbs at all (Bivol has said it wasn't a problem) but im sure he meant on a proper camp that might run a touch longer to cut the extra pounds , perhaps 10 weeks instead of the general 8.

    we're down to 5 weeks now. doing this at 168lbs is a bad bad look.
     
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  2. sdot_thadon

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    So you mean to tell me GGG has NEVER been the A side for any fight in his entire career? Of eff'n course he wasn't the A side versus Canelo and it's ludicrous to insinuate he should have been. And also, if Margarito's name was ever cleared of that controversy I've never heard it. So you somehow blindly believe his innocence, yet are firmly convinced in Canelo's case. Sounds about right.
     
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  3. drenlou

    drenlou Tres Delinquentes Full Member

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    He was training for Caleb, but now he has to adjust to an entirely different opponent with a different style. Theyre both going to get a 6-7 week training camp. Bivol stays in the gym year round, so i dont see there being an issue not being able to properly train. And Canelo is moving up to 175 to fight Bivol.
     
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  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Just look at who liked your post to see how silly it is. I KNOW he was innocent big difference Canelo was proven to have popped dirty Case closed
     
  6. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The thing is, if it's held at 168, most of his camp will be spent getting down to the weight. Preparation otherwise that would be spent on strategy and tactics.
     
  7. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    She is so fake. She does that fake smile and then looks down and starts browsing through her phone when the guy is answering, then back to the fake smile and nod. She does this often.

    Unbelievable.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Aren't you a fan of Margo who was a proven and convicted cheat?
     
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wouldn't mind 168-lbs either but I agree that Bivol would deserve like a full 10 weeks to get down to 168 safely. Time is running out to make this fight happen at 168 for Sept 18th. Perhaps they should try to make this fight in December at 168, and Canelo could defend his title against somebody else for Sept 18th who's already at 168. The question is who? Who do you think he should / will fight in September?
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    No. Bivol at 175 next.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You think that'll happen? I'd prefer it at 168, and wouldn't mind waiting for it, but still would be very interested if they can make it happen at 175 for September. Would be a huge fight.

    As an alternative though, in case it can't be made for September, are there any challengers at 168 that you'd like to see step up and challenge Canelo for the SMW titles?
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    You'd prefer Canelo fight a 175 belt holder at a weight he's never competed at? Why? Canelo is in a lose-lose at 168. He can't receive any credit for that win.

    At 168 I'd ideally see Plant. Failing that Benavidez or CEJ would be good fights.

    At 175 I'd like Beterbiev, then Bivol then Ramirez in that order.
     
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  13. shadow111

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    Because it's a better fight at that weight and Bivol has expressed a desire to make that happen, claiming he can make 168 no problem. I would prefer Canelo stay and fight at 168 which is his best weight. When Canelo moved up to 175 vs Kovalev he was a lot heavier and slower. He's not really suited for moving up to 175. He could do it but it's a big risk for him, because first even if he picks up a title there he would likely have to drop it then move down to 168 again. It's not really good for a fighter in their prime to be fluctuating in weight. The best thing Canelo can do is fight the best fighters at his weight. He's the Unified Champion at 168 remember. Why should he be chasing fights in the division above? There's plenty of competition available at 168. And that's where Canelo is at his best. I want to see Canelo at his best so we get the most possible excitement and entertainment not a slowed down lesser duller version of him fighting a division above where he should be at 175. He a muiltple title holder at 168. He needs to be defending those not chasing Light Heavyweights.
    Plant was the fight we wanted but he backed out. Benavidez has a match scheduled for later this month and he lost his SMW title by failing to make 168. So he's out of the picture for September and he needs to prove he can make 168 and fight in this weight class before we can consider him as a challenger for Canelo.

    CEJ would be a great fight but hes at Middleweight so he would have to move up.

    Just going through the boxrec Super Middleweight rankings there's several undefeated fighters he could fight.

    Carlos Gongora 20-0

    Zach Parker 21-0

    Back in April Gongora said he wants to fight Canelo so that could be a possibility for September.

    https://www.ringtv.com/620525-carlos-gongora-wants-the-biggest-fight-at-168-pounds-canelo-alvarez/
     
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    How can someone say 168 is a better fight when one fighter has never ever fought at that weight? Lol

    168 benefits nobody except Bivol and his bank balance
     
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  15. shadow111

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    Bivol has been lobbying for a 168 lb unification. He's made it very clear he has no problem making 168 and his promoter has said they are seeking that with Canelo. Some have made the argument that Bivol needs a longer training camp for him to get down to 168, so given the weight differences, Bivol doesn't seem to be a possibility for September. Canelo could move up to 175 but he really needs to defend his titles in the division he's in. He's a unified Champ at 168 he doesn't need to be chasing fights at 175. He should be fighting the best at 168. Unfortunately the best option at 168, Plant, had cold feet and decided to back away from fighting Canelo. So bring on the next best challenger at Super Middleweight. If / when Bivol can make 168 then make that happen. Bivol's a great fight but there seems to be too much uncertainty over the weight to agree to terms right away. Canelo needs to find an opponent ready to fight him at 168 in September. We're 6 weeks away from fight week and he doesn't have an opponent. If an opponent isn't announced soon then we'll hear all kinds of crying about the camp being too short.