Spence looked great in the Danny fight. Crispy punches, high volume, good defense, showed a chin, great stamina. ZERO ILL EFFECTS FROM THE CRASH.
p4p I believe Pacman has done enough to be in the top 10 at least, the resume alone takes care of it , still beating Spence is huge assuming he does it putting him second or third to SRR doesn't seem too far-fetched.
Explain to me how Pac is even greater than SRL, who's not even a top 10 atg? Who has wins over Duran, Benitez, Hagler and Hearns who won titles from 147-175. Who only lost to Duran a top 5 ATG Norris a top 5 ATG at 154 and HOF fighter and Camacho a HOF both at the end of his career. Pac has no wins within 1000 light years of those and his losses are much worse. Hell Pac wasn't even the best fighter of his own era. Stop with this GOAT talk it's embarrassing and disrespectful.
I personally have him around Top 12 but I think beating Spence will still elevate his ATG status. There's just too many fighters over the years that have done so much with ATG resumes that's hard to dispute. I just think it's a stretch to be ranking him above the likes of SRR or Duran. Best to wait after he's retired to fully evaluate his ATG standing.
It seems way far fetched he's not better than Ali Moore Langford Duran Greb Pep Louis SRL and many others
Spence isn't even a HOF fighter yet people say Pac beating him makes him the GOAT??? Yet you have a problem with me stating facts and pointing out this ridiculous rating???
We can safely say Spence is the number 1 or number 2 guy at welterweight. We can say for a fact that Spence is 11 years younger, bigger, taller, stronger, in his prime, unified champion, and undefeated. That's what Spence is. And Pac is 42, almost 43. Pac makes more history on top of the ridiculous historical feats he's already accomplished if he beats Spence. It goes from bonkers to all out insanity.
Is ESjr SUPPOSED to be HOFer already?? Why not address what I replied to you with? Does ONE single win determine if one is an ATG? That's your issue though, people saying it makes Pac the goat. Insecure little **** of a man you are....
He never beat JMM clearly and got KTFO by him. He beat a shot Morales he didn't beat a prime one and he lost to a faded Morales first. He beat MAB great win but MAB isn't an elite level ATG he's arguably a top 80 if that. Cotto was a great win but that's about it. His best wins are MAB Cotto and Bradley. His losses a no hoper in torrecampo singsurat got a gift draw with sanchez lost to a faded Morales got KTFO by JMM lost to Bradley lost badly in his biggest legacy fight against PBF, the best fighter of the era, lost to a bum in Horn. His resume doesn't stack up against GOAT level it doesn't even stack up against SRL who's not considered a top 10 ATG how can Pac be greater than SRL let alone the GOAT? When he doesn't have the wins or the skills to back it up.
Yes when you're talking about GOAT level stuff and I point out that his best win is MAB that's a very big deal. You simply can't overlook it. It's not like his best win is PBF it's MAB that alone disqualifies him from being the GOAT.
Pac's still active. His career is still too fresh. Give it 10-20 years and people will recognize him as the GOAT. Took a long time for people to admit Brady was the GOAT. People love holding onto the past. It's nostalgia. Most supercars today are faster and handle better than the McClaren F1 – considered the GOAT supercar still. But people know it's not the best car ever made.
OK...ONE WIN is what makes on an ATG. YOU said it! Hey...Leon Spinks is an ATG because he beat ATG Ali! Hey...Hasim Rahman is an ATG because he beat ATG LL! Hey... Torrecampo is an ATG because he beat ATG Pac! Hey...Jermain Taylor is an ATG because he beat ARTG Hops! Yep...you are a smart cookie Gimpy.
BTW you were never high on Spence, I was but I always keep it real. I love Spence but his best win is Kell Brook, he's a good fighter but he's not elite by HOF standards or ATG standards. Don't go overrating him if your God manages to beat him you do this to all of Pac's opponents.
