Casimero vs Rigondeaux fight week - What's your prediction?

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What's your prediction?

  1. Casimero KO/TKO

    20 vote(s)
    47.6%
  2. Casimero Decision

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    9.5%
  3. Rigondeaux KO/TKO

    8 vote(s)
    19.0%
  4. Rigondeaux Decision

    10 vote(s)
    23.8%
  5. Draw

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  1. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rigo by nasty KO
     
  2. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    The official bookies have Rigo as the favorite at even money.

    Casimero is a +200 underdog.
     
  3. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very similar to Inoue his first real test which he won was against a well past it Donaire. Casimero is in with his best opponent to date. I feel like Casimero has to show some heart of champion and have some answers. The Cuban will be asking questions.Unlike Nonaire Casimero has power in both hands.He can KTFO rigo with the left or the right. Nonaire only has a left hook. Casimero has a wide kit of punches.

    I do believe that Rigo will get stopped for the first time.
     
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  4. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tough call. Youth and ko power are always favored but I gotta funny feeling Rigo stops him.
     
  5. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    With the **** Casimero's been talking, he better KO Rigo, and violently.
     
  6. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I want Casimero to KO Rigo and than fight Inoue. Let's hope in december.
     
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  7. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is layers to Casimero's game that people don't see. His technical side. That Micah fight he just wanted to take him out of there because of a bet they had in the team. I think they had a bet for 3 rd KO or something. Micha was just a TOY to let the pitbull play with he was just game to Casimero.

    I think Casimero will box more here than wing shots in this fight.
     
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  8. Serge

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    The Ring Magazine: Fight Picks

    TOM GRAY: CASIMERO TKO

    “I think the timing is perfect for Casimero. As great as Rigondeaux was, his age and inactivity are due to catch up with him. Casimero is powerful and difficult to time, assets that will trouble a part-time professional regardless of his prior credentials. I foresee a come from behind stoppage.”

    ANSON WAINWRIGHT: CASIMERO TKO 10
    “Casimero fights at 100 mph, while Rigondeaux is a past master of picking his shots and making fighters pay. It’s one of those fighters where any outcome is possible. Casimero figures to come out fast and bring the fight. Rigondeaux will be much more economical and pick his shots. The pace of the action is something that will trouble Rigondeaux and ultimately be his downfall. I like Casimero to get the stoppage in the final quarter of the fight. However, I definitely wouldn’t be surprised if Rigondeaux ran Casimero into a shot and got the win.”

    LEE GROVES: RIGONDEAUX UD
    “While it is true that Casimero is younger, more aggressive, a big hitter and has been more active, Rigondeaux showed in his most recent fight against Liborio Solis that he is still a formidable technician capable of shutting down opponents when he decides to do so. Also, because he’ll have a three-inch height advantage and a three-and-a-half-inch wingspan edge, he’ll have the power to dictate terms and potentially lull the Filipino into the sleepy boxing match he prefers. As long as he doesn’t foolishly trade with Casimero as he did with Solis and Ceja — and as long as he lands hard enough and often enough to win rounds while in shutdown mode — his technical prowess and otherworldly knowledge should prove sufficient to dethrone Casimero.”

    MARTY MULCAHEY: RIGONDEAUX TKO 10
    “Guillermo Rigondeaux, like Bernard Hopkins or Donnie Nietes, does not have some genetic advantages that prevents him from aging like normal humans…. he is just a fantastic boxer who knows all the tricks. It takes a special talent to unseat someone like Rigo, and I do not think John Riel Casimero is in that category. I look for Rigo to stay patient initially, boxing from a distance and frustrating Casimero into more and more lunging punches. By the fifth round Rigo will have seen all he needs to see and he’ll cut the distance and start landing harder shots. By the 10th, the referee will have either seen enough or Rigo will have stopped the brave but outclassed Casimero with a two-knockdown round.”

    MICHAEL MONTERO: CASIMERO UD
    “The last time we saw Rigondeaux, he sleepwalked through most of his bout with Liborio Solis. Meanwhile Casimero is riding a six-fight KO streak. If this fight were signed a few years ago, I’d favor the Cuban, but I believe youth will be served on August 14. Gimme John Riel Casimero by unanimous decision.”

    NORM FRAUENHEIM: CASIMERO UD
    “Guillermo Rigondeaux’s nickname is “El Chacal” (The Jackal). But it might as well be ‘The Enigma.’ It’s hard to know exactly who Rigondeaux is. It’s even harder to pick against him. His astonishing record goes all the way back to the 2000 Sydney Olympics. He won gold then. He won gold again in 2004. If he had stayed in Cuba, he could have gone on to win in Tokyo, making him a six-time gold medalist. As an amateur, he was that good. But as a pro, he’s been hard to define. Now 40, he can still beat the younger Casimero. It depends on which Rigondeaux shows up. Dull or Dynamic? But either version will run into Casimero’s power, which figures to punish early and exhaust later in a convincing victory for the Filipino on all three cards.”

    BOXING INSIDERS


    DUKE MCKENZIE (FORMER THREE-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/TV ANALYST): CASIMERO TKO
    “This fight should be called, “Right Time, Right Place.” Surely Casimero is too fresh and ambitious to lose this fight. Rigondeaux was an excellent champion in his day and a fine ambassador for boxing. I can see a controversial stoppage at mid-way point in Casimero’s favor.”

    RAUL MARQUEZ (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/COMMENTATOR): CASIMERO TKO
    “Rigondeaux needs to box and use his veteran experience. Casimero is very strong and creative with his combinations. He’s very patient but once he finds the right distance, he will catch Rigondeaux between six to eight rounds.”

    MARC RAMSAY (TRAINER): CASIMERO TKO 9
    “In the last few years, John Riel Casimero has proven to be a boxer of quality, which should give us a good fight. But the real question is what has Rigondeaux left in the tank? He is now over 40 years old and is no longer active. His last performance was not convincing. I believe that the longer the fight goes the more difficult it will be for veteran Rigondeaux. I’m anticipating a late stoppage.”

    WAYNE MCCULLOUGH (TRAINER): CASIMERO KO 7
    “This is a fight with the better technician, Rigondeaux, versus the explosive hard-puncher, Casimero. Casimero will probably have the advantage as the younger man but will have to be in top shape to get the win. Rigondeaux is skillful and will have to be sharp to keep Casimero off but that could be tough as Casimero fights coming forward. Both guys can hit hard and it may well be the fighter who gets the first hard shot in that wins. Casimero will keep pushing for the knockout and might get it in the middle rounds unless Rigondeaux can keep him off with his skills. I think Casimero wins by KO in seven.”

    TONY TOLJ (MANAGER): CASIMERO UD
    “Casimero is a dangerous puncher, but Rigo is a crafty and incredible talent who is very precise. I think with [Rigo’s] time on the sidelines and Casimero’s youth, l have to go with the younger lion in this contest. Casimero by unanimous decision for me.”

    JASON MOLONEY (BANTAMWEIGHT CONTENDER): CASIMERO KO 6
    “It’s an interesting fight which could really go two ways. Rigondeaux could put on a boxing master class and win a very wide points decision or Casimero will win by KO. In Rigondeaux’s past couple of fights he seems to be getting hit and hurt more often. Perhaps his reflexes and chin aren’t as good as they used to be. For that reason, I’ll pick Casimero by KO 6.”

    ANDREW MOLONEY (JUNIOR BANTAMWEIGHT CONTENDER): CASIMERO TKO
    “This is a hard fight to pick, mainly because it depends what Rigondeaux shows up. I believe the Rigondeaux of a few years ago wins this fight comfortably, but due to his age and inactivity I believe Casimero will win this fight. Casimero by mid-late stoppage.”

    RUDY HERNANDEZ (TRAINER): RIGONDEAUX PTS
    “That’s a hard fight to predict… both counterpunchers, both with power. I think the fight will be slow and that will benefit Rigondeaux. I don’t see it being exciting but a knockout either way would be spectacular and that will make it worth watching. Rigondeaux’s experienced and if he’s got anything left, he will pull off of a close decision.”

    SAMPSON LEWCOWICZ (PROMOTER, SAMPSON BOXING): CASIMERO KO
    “Casimero by KO in the later rounds. The age and inactivity of Rigondeaux will be his enemy in this fight and he will pay the price.”

    ALEX STEEDMAN (COMMENTATOR): CASIMERO TKO
    “It’s probably fair to say that a prime Rigo would be more concerned where the next cookie was coming from rather than the rudimentary challenge presented by Casimero. But it’s easier guessing Rigo’s real age than it is establishing how much of the old talent persists. Recent wins suggest that he probably has enough to win this, but Casimero is on fire right now and brings the heat every time. If John Riel Casimero could get to Tete then he might be able to hassle Rigo too. Unthinkable until recently, I take Casimero to stop an ageing Rigo down the stretch.”

    ZOLANI TETE (BANTAMWEIGHT): RIGONDEAUX TKO
    “I would put my money on Rigo for his experience, his power and boxing I.Q. This fight won’t go the distance because Casimero’s stamina is questionable.”

    COLIN NATHAN (TRAINER): CASIMERO TKO
    “I’m going with Casimero by late stoppage, possibly after trailing on the cards.”

    JOHN SCULLY (TRAINER): RIGONDEAUX UD
    “I can’t say I know how much Rigo has left but he seems to be working hard. As good as Casimero is, I believe if Rigo is as sharp as he once was, he is going to win a unanimous decision and look younger than his years.”

    VICTOR SILVA (TV ANALYST): CASIMERO KO 9
    “The fight will be in the legs of Rigondeaux. If he can move for 12 rounds he might win, but, for me, Casimero will win by KO 9.”

    Final Tally: Casimero 15-5


    https://www.ringtv.com/625565-fight-picks-john-riel-casimero-vs-guillermo-rigondeaux/
     
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  9. Huberth

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    Casimero by TKO, or rigo will quit (again)
     
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  10. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @ near 5/2 rigo is a live dog in this,but due to age I have to go with Casimero.
     
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  11. drenlou

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    Pretty hyped up about this fight to be honest. If Rigo can some how nullify Casimero power, he can win this pretty easy.
     
  12. SOUTHERMOST

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    My two cents based in the Showtime TV preview card Rigo won the first round very relax joking with Casimero even calling him a clown in the weight in today told him to remove his sun glasses.
     
  13. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I put money on Rigo at +180.

    People are WAY overrating Casimero, who lost to a journeymen only a couple of years ago. Casimero has gone on a run beating a couple of no-names before knocking out Tete, his best win to date. And I do not think much of Tete to be honest, decent fighter but there are plenty of fighters on Rigo resume who would beat both Tete and Casimero and I would say that even with taking Loma and Donaire out of it.

    There are levels and people are forgetting how special Rigo is. And I say this as someone who does not particularly like watching Rigo fight. But against a guy like Casimero, who keeps his hands low and lunges in, Casimero is likely to get KTFO. People bring up Rigo age and he has not looked good his past couple of fights. But he nearly knocked Solis out, a guy with a very good chin. It might be good night Irene for Casimero if he eats that same shot. And Ceja is bigger than Rigo, who is bigger than Casimero. And Rigo still got him out of there.

    I think the hype train for Casimero comes to a full stop tomorrow and Rigo will remind people why he won all the medals as an amateur and only lost to another uber-talent two weight classes above his best as a professional.
     
  14. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His power isn't overrated. Who has rigondeaux beat that's so great, Donaire? The left hook one trick pony artist. Casimero to me has more weapons than Nonaire and is prime.

    Rigondeaux can be hit and he has been hurt and down against nobodies and looked horrible in the last 2 fights.
     
  15. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are on drugs if you think Casimero is anywhere near Donaire level. Donaire already stopped Casimeros daddy, Moruti Mthalane in case you forgot.

    And who has Casimero beat? Tete? Tete is no better than a guy like Agebko or even Ceja who knocked out Anselmo Moreno. Not to mention Casimero losing to guys way below even that level. Rigo has one loss to a guy two weight classes above him and a P4P level fighter, not some random journeymen cab driver.

    Casimero is going to get schooled tomorrow and shown to be the B level fighter that he is.