Jack Dempsey would beat Joe Louis, via Ko

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Think Dempsey scores an early knockdown. But I also think Joe gets up and by round 7 Dempsey is finished. I don’t think this match is such a mismatch as some think here. I don’t like Dempsey’s run in that he missed the best in Wills and went so long between defenses. But at his best he was a force. Because of Dempsey boxing would hit new highs and better boxers came about because of him.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I don't like the thought of Jack running into the armoury of Joe Louis. Dempsey gets surgically disassembled and pounded into a pulp imo
     
  3. BCS8

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    Dempsey was nothing if not fast and hard hitting. He might do it too.

    That said, on record and looking at the fighters, Louis seems to me more organised and with more layers to his game. I'd lean towards him tbh.
     
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  4. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    sure he could have, and sure it might have happened, however, you also have to side with Louis here, I mean he was a technical reserved, combination heavy hitter and was always so posed and in control, So Joe gets the nod more than not I'd say, but I rule nothing out, especially with Dempsey and other serious Top threats.

    Billy Conn was no 160 lb fighter, especially when he met Louis.
    I wish people would stop doing this when 'bigger' fighters who passed through a lower weight class while young and lighter, but soon levelled out into their own & true division(s)... also in those days many, many fights we're at catch weights, so if Conn was ever anywhere near 160 going after bigger men you can bet that these fights were made nearer 170 than 160...

    When & where fighters level out at, that is their weight division(s), Conn was a L-HW cum HW, so was Charles as were many, many others.
     
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  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anything is possible
     
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  6. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's an intriguing fight. One stylistic indicator I got when watching each man's career was Joe Louis' bout with Paulino Uzcudun, who was akin to a poor man's Dempsey. The Spaniard crouched, bobbed, weaved, was tough, and had a good left hook, but he was also faded when he took on Louis and lacked a lot of things Dempsey had. Louis stopped him in four, though I wouldn't say it was his most comfortable performance. In that fight, Louis seemed less sure of his shots, mostly poking with the jab and confining his power shots to a few specific instances. To me, he looked more confident against everyone else around that stage of his career--Carnera, Baer, Levinsky, Retzlaff, and even Schmeling, at least early. Of course Louis would get better after the Schmeling loss and a sampler platter style in Uzcudun would help him prepare for a prime Dempsey, but personally, I believe Jack would have been a credible threat to Louis.

    Dempsey had good feet and I think he would try and offset Louis' jab with foot feints and counter or lead rights to close the distance. Louis would probably probe and try to catch him coming in. If Dempsey can get on top of him early, he could stop "The Brown Bomber" quickly. If Louis lands one of those uppercuts, gets off a combination, or lands a right hand from distance, he could win swiftly. I think there would be danger for both men at all distances, at all times, no matter how long it went, though. Louis would be more likely to gain control as the bout went on, but I wouldn't class it as a given. Dempsey could sap Louis' energy with his infighting and body punches and wear him down late, or Louis may methodically take Dempsey out. I tend to favor Louis overall because he was the more proven and arguably more talented of the two, but part of me believes Ray Arcel wasn't talking total bollocks when he assessed Dempsey as a sensational talent.
     
  7. Greb5000

    Greb5000 New Member Full Member

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    Dempsey must be favored here as most of the great fighters whom seen them both box ,picked Dempsey. Go to michael hunnicutt facebook branford ct to view the newspaper clippings if interest ed. Most not viewed in decades
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Dempsey would leave himself open coming in. Louis would stiffen his joints. The Brown Bomber was the best fighter finisher there ever was. As Ray Robinson once said "if a cat even stumbled against Joe they were toast"
     
  9. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis had one significant flaw, getting hit (knocked down) because he was off balance. Good balance keeps you standing after a hit (or) pivoting on the balls of your feet, gives you more balance, increases core strength , better control, focus and mental clarity our certain. If he had proper balance, nobody would get in the ring with him. Watch Jack Johnson for perfect balance. "Now fellows go easy on me."
     
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  10. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    you wouldnt favorite a person who moves good and pick shots good your odd
     
  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's solid opinions on both sides, and this is a close fight. With a gun to my head I'd pick Louis.
     
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  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I got Gene Tunney on the phone, he wants to talk to you Doc. Should I tell him your not available. I'll tell him you clocked out to get your head together.
     
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  13. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    already did when I was a kid had a therapist now it's time for you legend
     
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  14. Greb5000

    Greb5000 New Member Full Member

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    When Louis came along, the great fantasy fight ever was a Dempsey, Louis go.
    Through the years dozens of the greatest boxers who ever lived were asked , by the press who would havehave won.
    Dozens thought Dempsey had the edge
    Now of course none of them had the knowledge, the experience , nor the pedigree of anyone here
     
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