Business models that would allow a modern fighter to rack up Stribling/Greb/Moore fight numbers?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Modern contenders play in a different field than the old timers, when you can't usually just schedule a fight a week. There are all kinds of training, peaking, and business considerations that make it difficult to fight that often.

    But if a contender TODAY wanted to rack up Greb/Moore/Stribling numbers of fights in a way that made economic sense (in other words, he's not doing it for charity), how would it be done?
     
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  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He'd have to be a free agent and a lousy boxer, willing to travel anywhere in the world to fight. Can't happen today; COVID has killed travel. A very bad boxer....basically a punching bag for prospects....might not get past some boxing commissions once he goes over 100 bouts.
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That would make the challenge easier, yes, but he has to be a contender.
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    My initial thought would be to try to harness the tools we have for online content creation to essentially appeal to a 100% online audience. Bring in the sort of inferior, so-called "local cab driver" opponents that Greb or Robinson might have fought weekly. Do it in a local boxing gym that normally hosts amateur fights. Film and edit it well, publish it online, and rely on views and ad revenue. But I have my doubts that you could jump through all the potentially expensive sanctioning hoops for that, and I also suspect the profit margins would be too small. But who knows. Maybe there are other options
     
  5. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like this thought. Some YouTube series would work, maybe they jump through the hoops by getting on cards that are already happening across the country.

    Another idea is if there was someone that came along that really captured the publics attention, think a Tyson or Oscar type of figure, and a tv network or streaming service puts them in a bunch of low risk fights monthly or really often that get monster ratings and then throws them in a ppv type fight every 4-6 months.

    I know they didn't really catch on, but if those 3 round one night tournaments caught on, guys could be getting in a bunch of 3 round fights a year.
     
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  6. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    You have actually inspired my future career options.
     
  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Oh dear.
     
  8. Kamikaze

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    I will mention you in my bio dw bruh.
     
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  9. Indefatigable

    Indefatigable Active Member banned Full Member

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    Lmao. This is as stupid a comment as was ever written. Do you really believe this swill? Where are the serious boxing historians? This is the questions and ideas of guys who have never read watched or had anything to do w/ boxing. Am I the only one who sees this?
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That most of the opponents on Greb's resume were far inferior to him? Yes, I think that's accurate.

    That Greb's opponents were literally cab drivers? No. It's a common shorthand that many people use on this forum to describe a situation where a really good fighter beats a lot of considerably outmatched opponents.

    In university history departments writing peer-reviewed research on boxing history, and/or in boxing journalism being paid for what they write.

    I think most people who have been watching closely have noticed that I don't claim expertise. It doesn't take a very keen eye, since I frequently say as much and generally ask questions.
     
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  11. Indefatigable

    Indefatigable Active Member banned Full Member

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    One big collective BULL**** to that.
     
  12. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You will never see fighter's going forward having the same number of professional fights as they did back then. In those days there was no TV revenue only the live Gate and fighter's had to fight constantly to feed themselves. So many of those fighter's ended up broke and badly damage after their careers ended that I hope we never see that again.

    Besides, plenty of the guys today have had a crazy amount of fights its just that they do it in the amateurs. Uysk for example had over 300 amauter fights and was a well seasoned fighter by his first pro fight.
     
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  13. McGrain

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    You would fight in Thailand and Vietnam. You would fight loads of four rounders against no-hope opposition. You'd also want to bag an awful, WBA youth then regional title that you would defend once a year over ten rounds. This is so all your fights are properly sanctioned and recognised and you can nurse your contender status.

    You could get two or three hundred fights under your belt.
     
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  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    At this point, I'm honestly not sure where you're even going with the routine of following me around and denouncing me as not being an expert. Like, I literally agreed I wasn't one, and now you're trying to argue over that.

    EDIT: Never mind. I'm apparently being trolled by a guy with a bunch of alts. (https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...rov-holmes-toney-tua-and-a-few-others.667296/). I miss mcvey. He was a bit touchy at times, but his knowledgeable-old-timer-who's-sick-of-your-nonsense moments were genuine. :(

    The rise in amateur fight numbers is interesting, yes. It's curious in some ways that some people still rack these fight numbers up, but no longer get paid for it.

    This is the best out of the box way of doing it I've seen. I hadn't even considered using the Thai circuit, but in retrospect they're perfect for it since they have a solid boxing community, low costs of living, and a living tradition of still having zillions of fights. You'd probably end up fighting a lot of ex MT guys. I assume it would only work in the lighter weights, though, since if you're importing guys it wouldn't be cost effective.
     
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  15. Jpreisser

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    Would professional boxing adopting a Mauy Thai approach be acceptable to fans or competitors?