Ha! I owned you clearly in a debate about the merits of Riddick Bowe. I offered a detailed and concise break down of what I saw as the flaw's in your arguement of "Why Riddick Bowe Was So Bitchin",only for you to give a half arsed argument that I didn't know what to look for in a great fighter. You never even tried to address the questions I posed to you about Bowes inadequacies,you just fled the argument,which in my eyes is an "ownage" in my favour. You let me down Roost as I anticipated and expected another tragic/comedic gem of a post from you labouring your ridiculous statements. I expected more from someone of your calibre.
So you did friend. I dont want to be accused of being another John Thomas who comes on strong with BS only to dissapear when the questioning gets tough. I forgot do you remember your questions? If not, I don't mind
Active? He had 4 fights within as many years, two in 89, one of which he lost, none in 90, and then Norris. How is that active? None of your other points are worth taking into consideration, since each fighter ages at a different pace. You're ****ing insane, that's my case. End conversation. :****off
Having one a fight a year is still considered active. Hagler was having one fight a year, sometimes two but still considered active. One fight a year is enough to be considered as active. Leonard put in the full 12 round with Marvin, nine the following year and 24 rounds following. You wont find any ring rust on the amazing Ray Leonard who with such greatness is able to defy ring logic. At any rate he was more active than the 1 fight in five years previous to that. By This content is protected then Maxnomer, Ray should necessarily improve from the levels he displayed in the Hagler fight. :yep Moreover, Ray was not carrying the extra weight he took into the Hagler fight. :nono With all the advantages Ray had going into the fight you must consider all the more how wondrous the magnitude of the Norris margin of victory. :yep :yep :yep This performance rivals some of the best I have ever witnessed :yep Including Sandoval-Jeff Chandler, and Douglas-Tyson. End of discussion :bbb
Rooster here's what I posed to you about Big Daddy which you never got around to addressing.(Sorry if it's not easy to follow,my cut/paste skills are lacking) Could you post this article again my man as I'm very interested in how you can rate Bowe so highly. It can't be his quality of opposition as apart from the great (albeit much smaller) Evander Holyfield his resume is thin.Lennox Lewis (who he **** his pants at the thought of fighting),Mike Tyson,Ray Mercer,Michael Moorer,Tommy Morrison,Oliver McCall,Frank Bruno are just some of the decent contempories he didn't meet.Wins over the likes of washed up Pinklon Thomas,Tyrell Biggs and Tony Tubbs (a loss some say) aren't all that impressive and neither are wins over glass jawed Bruce Seldon and drug addicted Bert Cooper. So that's a bust for Big Daddy. It can't be his title reign as he only could manage a feeble two successful defenses.It's hardly Joe Louis stuff is it? And who were those successful defenses over?Washed up drug addict Michael Dokes and old,washed up,journeyman Jesse Ferguson that's who.Not exactly the best opposition out there was it? Yet another criteria for greatness that Riddick doesn't meet. It can't be his longevity either as his career only encompassed 43 fights if you include his tragic comeback which by modern standards isn't too bad but by your standards is not long enough.This is based on your continual criticism of the brevity of Ray Leonards career which was a scant three fights less than Big Daddy could manage and Ray fought in way more title fights than Riddick did. So yet again Riddick doesn't do enough to achieve greatness. To be honest I think Bowe was possibly the most overrated fighter of the 90's as he was continually touted as the best heavyweight in the world by the likes of Ring magazine but after the first Holyfield fight he didn't really do that much.His victories over Herbie Hide and Jorge Luis Gonzalez got written up as some sort of evidence of Bowe's ability but in reality showed only how poor his standard of opposition was.Even his fight with Andrew Golota was thought to be a gimme for Big Daddy over a green,mechanical European Heavyweight.We all know how wrong that proved to be as Golota proved to be Bowe's superior in every way (except in intelligence...maybe) and for mine Bowe's bubble got burst for good with these fights. So that said I'm confused as to how you can possibly rate Big Daddy so highly on the back of all the evidence to the contrary against his so called greatness.Seriously I think you are just trolling with this Bowe love,but I'm open minded enough to carefully consider your views on it,if you can back it up with hard facts (which I doubt that you can).
I almost fell off my chair when I saw that this nonsensical bull**** idea has had 100+ posts- what the **** r u guys debating?!?! Sugar Ray Leonard or Terry Norris? Sober up seriously.
Had leonard more of career than just two years of championship fights and had Norris not beat him, Ray would be justifiably ranked ahead.