Wrong, Wilder is not only one of the most successful Heavyweight Champions, and one of the longest reigning, he is the guy who actually fights opponents near or at their best. His two-time title challenger Tyson Fury is the current World Champ in his prime. His title challenger from years ago Chris Arreola is fighting for the WBC Interim heavyweight title against Dillian Whyte next month. His title challenger from years ago Bermane Stiverne fought for the WBA Heavyweight title this years. His title challenger from years ago Gerald Washington fought in an IBF elimination bout on the Wilder-Fury II undercard just before Covid. Joshua fought Wlad in Wlad's last fight. He retired. Joshua fought Pulev in Pulev's last fight. He retired. Povetkin, retired. When Usyk loses, he'll retire, too. He should change his nickname to Anthony "I only fight names in their last bout" Joshua. When Joshua fights anyone who isn't pushing 40, he tends to struggle ... like calling "time out" against Joseph Parker or spitting out his mouthpiece and straight up quitting against late sub Andy Ruiz. It's Marketing 101. You're being played.
This is the game. The best fighter in the WHOLE SPORT is the World Heavyweight Champion Tyson Fury. Everyone knows this. Wilder defended against Fury TWO TIMES. He 'successfully' defended his title against Fury in fight one and dropped him twice. That is Wilder's best performance (and one of Fury's best, too) against the BEST fighter in the WHOLE SPORT. Wilder dropped the best fighter in the whole sport twice and successfully defended his WBC heavyweight title against him. But let's leave that one off. Because the argument is over if you include a two knockdown, successful defense against Tyson Fury - even though it happened and if Joshua had actually fought Fury and dropped him twice and successfully defended against him ... it would be at the very top of Joshua's list. But let's leave that off when discussing Wilder, because we lose if we include that. Wilder also scored TWO sensational KOs over Luis Ortiz. But only ONE gets mentioned. That's because Joshua doesn't rematch guys he beat. So we can't list Ortiz TWO TIMES on Wilder's resume ... even though the guy was highly rated and Wilder brutally KOed him twice ... so let's leave off Fury and leave off one of Wilder's TWO sensational wins over Ortiz. So you have Tyson Fury, Luis Oritz 1, Luis Ortiz 2 as Wilder's best fights ... and you remove two of the top three performances. That's how nearly every discussion begins when discussing Wilder and Joshua, because if you include a two-knockdown successful defense against the current World Champ and BOTH of his KO wins over Luis Ortiz ... People will go 'well, Fury is better than anyone Joshua fought. And brutally knocking out Luis Ortiz two times is certainly more impressive than decisioning Joseph Parker and decisioning Andy Ruiz. A statistician would laugh at how you're skewing the results right out of the gate. And no more nonsense about how Fury won every round except the rounds he got knocked down in. Look at the fight. Look at the rounds. Look at the punchstats. Nearly every round was decided by one or two punches. That's it. It was a close fight in nearly every round. You guys just keep repeating lie after lie and fake ratings after fake ratings ... and then you can't believe how someone could possibly see it any other way. You've blinded yourselves with your own nonsense.
SIX KNOCKDOWNS in total and two KO wins scored by Wilder in those three successful defenses. Wilder doesn't go down or lose in any of the three. Only on this board is that "not a good look." I swear. How many "bad looks" did Joshua have in his best wins again? How many times did Wlad hurt and drop Joshua? How good did Joshua look running for his life in the Ruiz rematch or calling "time out" when Joseph Parker landed one good punch in those two 12-round decision wins?
Well having the officials show extreme bias so you get through fights without taking a loss generally is not a good look. Only wilder fan boys would think otherwise, I swear. Fury 1- Rochin card Ortiz 1- doctor interference Ortiz 2 - he beats the count at round end (way ahead on the cards) and your "crab in a bucket referee" waves it off. I wonder how wilder knew him to be a "crab in the bucket"...
Anthony Joshua: "Ouch. Parker landed a shot. I'd like to call time out now, ref." Referee: "Blimey! Sure ting, Antnee. Sure ting." Anthony Joshua: "Eddie, never match me with another bloke again unless he swears it's his last fight before retirement." Hearn: "Right. Let's sort the buyers from the spyers, the needy from the greedy, and those who trust me from the ones who don't, because if you can't see value here today, you're not up here shopping. You're up here shoplifting. You see these goods? Never seen daylight, moonlight, Israelite. Fanny by the gaslight. Take a bag, c'mon take a bag. I took a bag home last night. Cost me a lot more than ten pound, I can tell you. Anyone like jewelry? Look at that one there. Handmade in Italy, hand-stolen in Stepney. It's as long as my arm. I wish it was as long as something else. Don't think because these boxes are sealed up, they're empty. The only man who sells empty boxes is the undertaker, and by the look of some of you lot today, I'd make more money with me measuring tape. Here, one price."
Johann Duhaupas outboxed Wilder, beat him black and blue. I don't understand how he achieved to lose that match to Wilder. If Johann Duhaupas was so good against Wilder, we can't say Wilder is a great boxer.
Nice attempt at deflecting. "Crab in a bucket referee" Wilder's words not mine... Keep kissing that ass
First of all, Duhaupas didn't outbox Wilder. Second, Wilder stopped him. Third, Duhaupas knocked out Robert Helenius the following year and was rated as high as #5 after that. If Wilder sucked, that would've been his 'Andy Ruiz fight.' (See Joshua-Ruiz I) But Wilder never had any 'Andy Ruiz' fights. Don't hold it against Wilder that he never spit out his mouthpiece and quit when he had a rough night with a late sub. You're not supposed to spit out your mouthpiece and quit when you have a rough night with a late sub. (Again, see Joshua-Ruiz 1). Wilder stopped him. People LOVE to bash Wilder. But they always tend to leave out that he ended the fight stopping the guy.
I don't know what "crab in the bucket referee" means. But if you think Ortiz could've continued in his rematch against Wilder you're high as a kite.. That was a picture-perfect one-punch KO.
I suggest you watch it again. The ref waved it off at 9 as he was about to beat the 10 count. lol Way up on all the cards. The round had already ended. "Crab in the bucket referee" waves it off. Ortiz is left standing there incredulous. And clearly pissed off in the post fight after getting screwed a second time by the officials Wilder knew what was up: "crab in the bucket referee" His words
He has at least that number of SMW's who just couldn't be bothered to take up the sport of boxing anymore, were fat, out of shape, poorly conditioned and needed to pick up a couple of more months house rent. For a fighter with 10+ title defenses, Wilders resume is total start.
Yes, he looked very "incredulous" when he got up 13 seconds after getting dropped flat on his back and then had to be held up by the ref when he did stand. He was clearly so "incredulous" about the fight being stopped at that point. So was his corner, who didn't even bother to get in the ring or complain to ref as their fighter was slowly helped back to his corner by an official. Is that what "Crab in the bucket" means -- failing to beat the 10 count and then needing to be helped back to your corner and not remembering going down? Marlon Starling was "incredulous" after he got knocked out by Tomas Molinares, too. Because he hadn't even been knocked down, or, at least didn't "remember' being knocked down. This content is protected
Parker would beat Ortizn't purely on gas tank alone. Ortizn't is completely ****ed by the halfway mark where as Parker still has something left in the championship rounds as evidenced in the DW fight where he likely had a concussion aswell.
