Parker's resume (simplified)

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Will Parker ever be a world champion again?

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  1. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    1. Highly competitive 12 round win over fringe contender Takam in NZ

    2. Highly controversial 12 round win over fringe contender Ruiz in NZ for a vacant title

    3. Lost several rounds over 12 against late replacement journeyman Cojanu in NZ

    4. Highly controversial 12 round win over very young fringe contender Hughie in Britain

    5. Lost meekly over 12 and surrendered his title to vulnerable fellow belt holder AJ in Britain

    6. Lost meekly over 12 to fringe contender Whyte in Britain, albeit in a controversial fight

    7. Highly competitive 12 round win over sub-fringe contender Fa in NZ

    8. Highly controversial 12 round win over warhorse fringe contender Chisora in Britain

    9. Highly competitive 12 round win over warhorse fringe contender Chisora in Britain

    108 rounds over 9 fights against his 9 best opponents; lots of experience but lots of wear and tear at 30. Three KD’s scored (one over an exhausted Whyte in the 12th, two over a badly shopworn Chisora) two received, 0 KO’s, 7 wins and 2 losses but could easily be 4-5.
     
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  2. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Parker and Whyte are aged.
     
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  3. Chuck Norris

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    ''Lost several rounds'' against Cojanu. :loel:
     
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  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Parker is <30, Whyte is 32 y.o elephant declared as up coming future world champion.
    While unlces with not proper surnames are considered: they were in their best shape when they were 37-38-39-40-41 y.o.
    Yeah.
     
  5. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Welcome back LDBC.

    Because we all know there is an angle here, I’ll nip it in the bud. All of the above may be the case, but he would still beat everyone but Fury on Wilders resume.

    :eaea:
     
  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Im no Parker fan but the OP is full of exaggeration
     
  7. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Officially 39 year old Ortiz would definitely beat him and the rich man's Ruiz prime Stiverne probably would too.
     
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  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My opinion on Parkers resume:

    Chisora - I thought Parker deservedly the right winner.

    Takam - I scored it 8- 4 Parker. I thought the rounds were clear cut to judge.

    Ruiz - I had Parker winning 7-5 again clear cut rounds to judge in a decent fight.

    Hughie - Worst fight I've ever seen. Horrible and difficult fight to score but I gave to Parker (that's after watching it a second time - don't why i tortured myself like that).

    FA - Another ugly fight which was hard to score but Fa just didn't do enough for me and was too negative which why I had Parker winning.

    AJ - AJ won comfortably on points fighting on the backfoot in much more negative Manor than we have seen from AJ at the time.

    Whyte - even ignoring the KD that should not of stood,, I had Whyte winning clearly on points even despite the late scare and Whyte hanging on for dear life in the last round. If rematch was to happen though I reckon Parker would win it.

    Overall it's amongst the top 5 resumes at HW after AJ, Whyte, Fury and also considering Povetkin has retired. It's a hell of a lot better resume than Wilder,, that's for sure.

    Will Parker be champion again? I can't see beating AJ or Usyk. However against a lesser opponent for vacant belt? Yes that could happen.
     
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  9. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Parker seems like a nice guy and all (I was shocked when I heard about the meth dealing allegations) but he's a former paper champion, current fringe contender and future gatekeeper who lucked out and won a vacant title on a hometown decision in his backyard against Arreola 2.0.
     
  10. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From where you had get this?
    Ortiz had beat or fought vs no one well known name ( outside of US fans scope of view ), expect Wilder who is just a bit known name.
    In US he is name.
    Might Ortiz beat Whyte or Chisora?
    We do not know cos he did not had fought vs them.
    Not to talk about other boxers.
    Murica rullz.
    He isn't Holyfield etc alike boxers.
    We do not know who Ortiz is able to beat.
     
  11. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz only notable win is Jennings. Jennings only notable win (ignoring Perez which should have been a draw due to the controversial point deduction) was against Spzilka and Rudenko?

    Stiverne whose only notable win is beating Arreola whose only notable win is beating Molina?

    Above a guy who has beaten Ruiz, Chisora, Takam and Hughie?

    In the words of Fish eyes "Do ME A FAVOUR!".
     
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  12. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    He exposed the limited Wilder, so naturally, Dubblechin needs to find a way to pump up Ortiz.

    That's what he does. Each thread has an angle, and that angle is to pump up Wilder.
    It's all an attempt to soothe the sleepless nights he's had since pillow fist Fury slapped him around the ring.
     
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  13. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The same applies to Whyte/Chisora/Parker: none of them fought Ortiz. But Ortiz's comparative wins against Jennings, Cojanu and Allen are better than Rivas (life and death with Whyte in Britain) Joyce in Britain (genuine contender) Parker in NZ, Dubois in Britain, Ajagba, Whyte and Yoka in France. He also handled Hammer easily at 40, who is slightly worse than Chisora and similar anthropometrically and stylistically. He was heavily ducked a few years ago for a number of reasons. Hearn could have made AJ-Ortiz and Molina-Allen instead of AJ-Molina and Ortiz-Allen on the same card in late 2016 but he knew that Ortiz was a big threat. He could have matched Ortiz up with Whyte: he promoted all of them but again he didn't. So the evidence suggests to me that even a few years ago, Ortiz would have beaten all of the B level HW's.
     
  14. Mitch87

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    "Lucked out" by beating a guy for vacant title who went onto to be the first guy to beat the HW with the best resume in the divison?

    I know it's not quite the murderers row that Wilder went through to become champion is it? Beating Malik Scott (who had already lost to Chisora) who took a blatant dive against Wilder, then by beating the at the time 25-16-4 Jason Gavern to earn a title shot against the great and almighty Stiverne.
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

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    It'd be nice if the OP would also mention how old Parker was for each of those fights, and compare that to his beloved Ortiz.