As the fight approaches, let us again discuss why I narrowly think Usyk beats Joshua

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  1. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    At the time of the stoppage in the first fight, which Andy Ruiz was dominating.... these were the scorecards, with 2 knockdowns.

    Michael Alexander 57-56 Ruiz
    Julie Lederman 57-56 Ruiz
    Pasquale Procopio 56-57 Joshua

    There's no chance, not even in the US that Andy would've gotten a fair shake had it gone the distance.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Failed on the first sentence. That is not a correct use of language.

    I don't know what "so I'm gonna this argument and come back after the fight" means. Did you maybe leave a word out? In any event, yeah, that is why I made the thread. I have already stated that I like Joshua, so I will be happy to give him credit.
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    ive said the same thing numerous times. the way posters carry on about him here, i just dont see it. even before he moved up to hw, i wasnt near as impressed as a bunch of people here seem to be. i think hes very good at what he does, but i dont consider him a great fighter. if im right, aj should handle him without too much trouble. if im wrong, then like you, i will have some crow to eat.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, no, there will be no crow for you to eat, because you are stating things like a respectful fan of the sport. As I think I am on the other side. The only people who will eat crow are the guys who are running at the mouth.
     
  5. Big Lou dog

    Big Lou dog Member Full Member

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    CST80 has beat me to it.

    For what it’s worth I think (and hope) Joshua wins but for Usyk to get a decision it would have to be a complete shut out, and even that wouldn’t guarantee him anything. He has to come with a KO or be KO’d attitude to give himself the best shot at winning. If he’s happy to lose a controversial decision, then fine, come to give AJ a boxing lesson.
     
  6. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's absolutely disgraceful.
     
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  7. Ty is That Guy

    Ty is That Guy Member Full Member

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    Basically. And the guys who say that Usyk wins, they hate AJ so they are not thinking clearly at all. There will be a lot of back tracking on here after the fight.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    U are A.J fangirl.

    U think everyone who attempts just to think realistically is A.J hater etc alike.

    People like you had posted in YT and forums such comments:
    Before 1 st fight vs late replacement in Andy Ruiz Jr.
    Easy night in the office vs bum, fat panda, this obese bum will be floored easily.
    LOL.
    Before 2 nd fight vs Ruiz Jr. : A.J will floor this bum.
    LOL.
    Before fight vs Parker: A.J will floor this fraud hypejob.
    LOL.
    A.J needed aunt's ref to help him, LOL, A.J.

    What about Usyk?
    Yeah, I had read up posts before fight vs Bellew: he fought no one ( LOL ) and will be exposed. LOL.
    Before fight vs Hunter: eurobum will be exposed and beated up.

    Sorry, a lot of ppl are just envious and never will have money the likes Chisora does have while are calling him in comments as club fighter and journeyman.
    LOL.
     
  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are already enough comments to bactrack : before Ruiz Jr had mopped floor with A.J.

    Get this: Ruiz Jr still is A.J daddy, points win in rematch does not cover loss via stoppage.

    There is enough to backtrack about Wilder and A.J fangirls and even Fury fangirls.
     
  10. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Usyk has a tough hill to climb but he can do it. These are my 2 keys to an Usyk victory.

    - Dictate the pace of the fight. Usyk can't let AJ be comfortable. Usyk has to pressure AJ both physically and mentally. Make the bigger man work. Don't give him the opportunity to sit back and think.
    - Usyk can not give away the the early rounds. Usyk does have a habit of starting slow to figure out his opponent. The cards are already filled out in AJ's favor. Usyk can't afford to give any rounds away. This also plays into the first key. Make AJ work in those early rounds so he's tired in the later ones.

    AJ has multiple paths to win. If he makes it the final bell, he probably wins (or gets a corrupt draw). He also has his game changing power, so a KO could come at any time. If he jumps on Usyk during a lull, he can get a British Stoppage. If Usyk gives away those early rounds we could have a legit close fight and a legit decision win for AJ.

    I really don't know who will win this fight. I'm looking forward to it. I hope we get a fair finish, but as a boxing fan I've come to expect corruption in big fights.
     
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course he can't afford.
    On score cards he will not win in no case here.
    Next thing: if A.J game plan will be definitely to stop Usyk, he most likely will attempt start to execute such game plan ASAP since first bell.
    Maybe even just to take stance with extended high guard and move on Usyk while throwing power punches in row with intent to clinch and hold, press, rotate, push and pull Usyk to impose on him his physical strength advantages with maximum effect.
    Then if he will repeat such cycle again, might not look good for Usyk.

    A.J is larger than Usyk and heavier, also he is really very strong fighter even for his large size, weight and visible shape how he looks.
    Damn strong bodybuilder and if he will grab and press / push- pull, rotate Usyk, being bodybuilder even might help him really a lot for short timeframe fight episodes.



    Yeah, for A.J most likely even late and long count is prepared, for Usyk : British stoppage in hometown small hall shows souce.

    I really will be happy if I will be wrong with this. Anyway, I don't trust.
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WTF?!?! :lol:
     
  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's messed up! Keep your door locked :lol:
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You got it right. Did not think the judges would be fair
     
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